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Thread: GESH! IF you think Rifleman whine... Go look at the commando boards!

Bashin
Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:56 pm
#1

Wow...


Almost every post on the commados first page is a whine about the 2.5 melee penalty.





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Nowakai-Evatosa
Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:59 pm
#2

With good reason, isnt it the same thing rifleman had such a huge problem with?Only commandos fight from a 16m range, so its a profession ruining penalty for them.I wont one star you, I'm sure someone will though...this horse is dead.



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vaalenko
Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:59 pm
#3

Heh. funny part is that they dont miss at least at close range!




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Nowakai-Evatosa
Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:01 pm
#4

oops, guess I should clarify, previous post is in no way a rifleman flame, just saying that 2.5 on commando is basically the same as heavy weapons registering as melee, you are hit with the penalty from your optimum range, any rifleman that fought a commando before the weapons were fixed knows it sucks bad.



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Nowakai-Evatosa
Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:03 pm
#5

Heh. funny part is that they dont miss at least at close range!



Uhh,....Commando has the worst accuracy of any class, we start fresh in the commando tree, none of the accuracy modifiers stack from marksman tree, gives us roughly a 40-60% accuracy rate, usually the lower end of that spectrum




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vaalenko
Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:47 pm
#6

>>>Uhh,....Commando has the worst accuracy of any class


Well, as player that played both commando and rifleman i should say master commando accuracy is far far better than rifle in close range. If a mob catchs me with my rifle all i can do is to sit down and let him kill me. You guys have the cahnce to kill him at least.


And honestly, with so many problems elite classes have,itsnot easy to hear commandos/BHs whining.




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VolstedGridban
Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:17 pm
#7

I will give a shiny new nickel to anybody who can find a profession-based message forum which ISN'T mostly complaints.



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Gazkan
Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:32 pm
#8

Most of the whines on the rifleman message boards in the last week have also been by commando's.. I know it's beentoughon commando'sgoing from total god mode to total god mode only with a pet... but this is the rifleman board.
Nowakai-Evatosa
Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:28 pm
#9

Well, Gaz, I dont only play a commando, I play a lot of classes, and I'll defend them all too, no matter what board it happens to be on.Like it was stated earlier, there are just as many "whines" on every board.It's because people pay to play this game and they arent happy with it.


Commando vs Rifleman was god mode, because our weapons registered as melee weapons, because we fight from melee range.This wasnt fair at all to riflemen.I imagine it sucked pretty hard.But there's a nice little post over on the commando boards with logs to DPS under controlled conditions that maybe you should take the time to go look at.


Agreed riflemen have no chance up close, but then on the other hand a commando haspretty crapchances from range either.


The jedi system may be a blessing in disguise, forcing some "one class wonders" to take up a few other professions and see the pros/cons of them.It's gone a long way in keeping me from flaming any other classes, or defending any too vehemently for that matter.They are all pretty much broken in some way or another.




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Su1tar
Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:03 am
#10

ofcourse they whine. Imagine if i told you the only way you could hit someone was if you were right near them, but if you are right near them they 1-3 shot you.


They cant style unless they are at 16m, and at 16m with server side lag means the mob is on you or 1 sec from getting to you, and then you get eaten. Commandos are learning to have their weapons equiped 5% of the time due to this.


I'd say that's reason to whine.






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MoxinSarb
Sun Oct 19, 2003 11:56 am
#11

When we can do fire attacks that do massive wound damage, or base attacks around 1000 pts of damage, then perhaps I might feel bad for you. As it stands now, you're an effective kiting class, whereas the rifleman is not. You also get more defenses from the start, since you have to master all of marksman (albeit, I won't argue that too hard because you're obviously spending the skill points to GET those defenses, which riflemen could too). The fact you can shoot for so much damage and so that massive fire wound damage makes up for a lot, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. The strongest rifleman attack is now around 1.5-2k damage with a decent weapon. Commandos are hitting for 10k, roughly. I fail to see how you can justify this.


Su1tar
Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:58 pm
#12

Im not gonna start a commando vs rifleman whine thread. However if you actually think commandos can get close enough to style on a mob and then kite it you sure are not very smart. Try it next time. You'll be using your once-every-10-mins burst run within seconds.





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