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Thread: T21 INFO ... THE REAL DEAL PLEASE READ AND COMMENT IF YOU DISAGREE ( YOU WONT)

daneone
Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:35 pm
#1

daneone
Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:42 pm
#2

OK for all you who think the t21 isnt a great weapon got you head outta your rear ... thanks


the t21 is the best rifle in the game period


ITS HEAVY ARMOR PIERCING ... that should say it all but apparently for the inept it doesnt


as rifleman you should be conserned with dmg output


i have a master weaponsmith and master rifleam on the same server so i tend to try out all weapons a lot just to see what nmy costomers are getting


the t21 absolutely rules even compared to the laser rifle which is MEDIUM AROMOR PIERCING


the T21 is the ONLY .... i repeat ONLY .. one more time for the slow people reading this the ONLY weapon in THE STAR WARS GALAXIES game that is heaby armor piercing that can be used by someone other than commandos


this is basically a cvommando weapon that they gave to rifleman ... THIS GUN FREAKIN RULES


peroid hands down


and the fact you say that this weapon kills you before you kill the creature athen you are not a good rifleman and hshould go into entertainer profession ..... this gun is hands down the best gun we get


true many will disagree but i have tried them all and i use absolutely every rifle in the game and they are all ubah but this one takes the cake

AlmiBoawou
Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:58 pm
#3

ummm, ok.


yeah, it's an awesome rifle. yeah, it's the best rifle, but it really does mess up your mind really really bad. i have all my mind maxed, and i'm zabrak, and tonight i depleted the whole thing in just under 5 seconds using the t21. not wearing armor or anything. are you going to tell me i don't know what i'm doing? it certainly does have its drawbacks, and actually i've started using my dlt20a again because it does comparable damage, since i can spam special attacks to my little heart's desire on it. and it doesn't cost a billion dollars, so i don't have to worry about it decaying.

SWG-Skemo
Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:47 pm
#4

Almi's right. The drain is really really bad on it. I too use a DLT20a (Laser Rifle for bleeds). It has the best damage to HAM cost ratio of all the weapons we have, and they can be quite good, I have a 120-185 3.2 one and it rocks. Plus is doesn't cost a billion dollars.



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AldeonAvardulin
Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:51 pm
#5

Its a support weapon really. When it becomes available,Ill use it when desperate, or when Im solo. Or against people with marine armor. You will get 10-15 shots off straight before your out of mind. Depending on what race you are, now solo that works fine since it will take 1-2 shots. But, in a larger battle, you more shots then 10-15. Id say on average I use about 30-100 shots per engagement. Of course our numbers are usually 5-15(us)vs20-100 rebels.



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Waylay
Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:18 pm
#6

guys, with a t21 tonight i took on a plains hunter that was camping my harvester. (a plains hunter has 9k ham). i hit with with mind 1 for 800 points (lets see you do that with a dlt20) and turned and ran before the dot hit it. from around 150 yards i watched as the dot took it down and and after it was done i went back and did it again. then killed it with head shot 2 for 2100. there is no question that i would never pick up a dlt20 again. there is no reason to step that far back. if i need another weapon i use the jawa or my fast t21 (yes i have 2 t21s one per patch with a spd of 9.8 and the second before the second patch came out with a spd of 6.1 both are unsliced, sorry to all you guys that dont have one.).



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angrydurf
Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:42 pm
#7

ummmmmmm. the complaint isn't that the t21 is bad but the thing that you laud as makeing this the best weapon in the game is getting removed. thats the complaint after the naxet patch the t21 is to be a LIGHT let me say it again L-I-G-H-T armorpeirceing weapon. Thats rigth weaker than the laser rifle. So yea your right the T21 is an awesome gun. Our complaints are that the proposed changes are going to make it less usefull than the guns available eairlier and cheaper.



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Aerialsmind
Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:49 am
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here's the *real deal*


the t21 kicks ass but drains your mind a lot... so learn how to use it properly to compensate for that


the dlt20 is a fast rifle with very little spec action cost, however it does only semi-decent damage... so learn how to use it properly to compensate for that


the laser rifle is medium armor peircing however it has the capibility of doing sucky damage... so learn how to use it properly to compensate for that


pretty much any medium to high level rifle is DEADLY in the hands of someone who has tactics


why just tonight me and some friends were killing dragons on tatooine and i was whooping them up with a SPRAYSITCK, 15-150 dmg,but 1.4 attack speed kids...


btw jawa ions = primo sh1t


so you can either love a gun or hate it, it's really up to you,


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Quas
Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:37 am
#9

Acctually it's not as good as it looks, at least not on most servers. The T21 require at least 3 pretty rare resources to be made and considering how seldom these spawn the quality is often low or mediocre at the best. Even if a top of the line T21 would be incredible, the T21s on eclipse are for example not as good as the laser rifles. The mind pool drain is acctually worse on a laser rifle than on a T21 though (not counting high level riflemen who fire once every 2 seconds).



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Imperial Master Tactician
Eclipse, Naboo
SomeRandom
Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:38 am
#10

i must agree.. im not a true rifleman 4/0/0/0 so for me T21 is slow.. but i dont care..


the highest dmg from a HS3 has 5547 with and avg of 3000before dmg bonus for armorpiercing sand my DoT his peaked 3600


i use a dmg sliced T21 with max and min dmg boost.... (fast decay 100 in 20 hours play - but hey 600k made in same time span..ill get anew one )



some random stormtrooper....



a shame about the nerf..74 max range ..eh?

AlmiBoawou
Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:48 am
#11

who said the t21 is becoming light AGAIN...?


ok and to clear things up: whenever I fight a really difficult mob, i'll use the t21 for the initial 2 mind shots. i used to then switch to a laser rifle and just work from there, though now i'll probably be switching to the dlt.


so for me, i use 3 guns heavily: the t21 (when i need a 1 hit kill, or when i want to use heavy bleeds), the laser rifle (when i'm in for a long fight against a creature), or the dlt20a (same deal as the laser rifle, or if i'm looking to spam aoe attacks). they ALL have a use for me. the only reason i'm not using my e11 toois that it's a crappy one, and my dlt is better in every way.

AlmiBoawou
Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:53 am
#12

oh, and that was not for pvp. for pvp, it depends on the opponent: if he's a rifleman, i'll probably want to save my mind, so i might not use a t21 (unless i feel like making him bleed). if he's not a rifleman, i'll use the t21.

Darth_Reemul
Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:33 am
#13

All I know is I want one


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