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i dont thinks it much bigger at all, on the contrary ive done MS2 & MS1 and actually got better shots with MS1.

I use the famous T21 to domy MSthen switch to the E11 and have noticed that they are generally the same, maybe the MS2 is slightly higher, but certainly not double.

Maybe this is a bug though? SHould MS2 be double what MS1 is?

ive been using them both for a long time and i have to say they don't do double. if they are supposed to then something is wrong, but i have rarely ever had ms2 do twice as much as 1.

Anyone done thorough testing on this?

Seeing that at this time i still have only ms1, i was wondering why everyone says to shoot mind shot2 then mind shot 1, it would seem that they would have the same effect, except with ms2 having more initial damge... can anyone answer this cuz i was really curious.

Neither mindshot does initial damage. Mindshot 2 can result in slightly bigger bleeds though.

You want to do both of them because they stack, meaning if I hit mindshot1 for 800 and mindshot 2 for 1000, there is effectively an 1800 mind bleed right there.

ahhh thanks

Slightly bigger? I was pretty sure it was 2 times as much.

Ok I have been watching MS2 and MS1 for the last 40k of experienceand my range (with laser rifle) has been...

MS1 80-540

MS2 170-1012

So its either 2x or dang close.

I haven't had MS2 for that long but my max damage (with Laser Rifle) is about 1400, and max with MS1 is about 950, so its more like 1/2 more damage, but not double.

I'm shooting mobs with a 40% energy resistance so maybe thats messing with my head, I did get a MS1 shot late that night of 650 but thats the highest I have seen yet, I will keep my eyes open. You are getting your MS damage from the combat screen not what you see over the mobs head right?

I get mine from the Combat Screen. I believe the number above the mobs head is after armor piercing? not quite sure, just my guess.

Mindshots ignore resists, but they dont get armor piercing effects.

So the mob always bleeds for the chatbox damage.

Ive had mindshot1 hit for just under 1k, 950 ballpark...

Ive had mindshot2 hit for just over 1k, 1200 ballpark...

best case scenarios for both stats using a laser rifle.