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Thread: Rifles (weapons in general) and damage

MrFile
Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:50 am
#1

What i dont understand is why everyone who is a Rifleman is not using a spraystick.


(I will say in advance i know im missing something here, and that is why im posting this.)


Lets use this as an example


A) Laser Rifle [28-370d] [5.8s] [13/22/59 ham] - 14999c
B) Spraystick [16-153d] [1.8s] [13/41/41 ham] - 9999c


B can fire much faster then A but does less damage, but when compared B fires 3 times faster then A. So why doesnt everyone use B?


It seems like the Ham costs are higher with B, but its still not a very large difference.




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Rcuhljr
Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:58 am
#2

yeah but firing three times in the same interval means your ham costs are actualy 123 for mind, see the difference?



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JohaoCarl
Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:43 am
#3

I use a laser rifle to make the mind and head shots. Normally, I try the one shot-one kill. When I get near fighting,I change to spraystick. I don't like the near fighting, but when this "bad luck" happens, i heve the spraystick to help me, and I can use some special attacks if the creature or NPC is mind pool low. Normally, i survive.


I am thinking to quit my pistol skills.


Obviously, I want a T21 to have more sucess rate wiht the "one shot-one kill" thing.


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AlmiBoawou
Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:49 am
#4

Also, when you're higher up the rifleman tree, a gun with speed of 2 doesn't really out-perform a gun with a speed of 6, because both will hit the 1 second cap.
MrFile
Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:11 am
#5

Thank you for the reply all, i think im starting to see your point.


Can someone though explain to me how you +5/+10 etc actully improves our weapons use speed? Does it work like 0-100%, so at +100 on rifle speed ill have 1 second weapon no matter what it is and damage and drain is all i should worry about?


Maybe i just dont know where to look, but ifind it amazing that i cant see how my characters abilities reflect on the weapon i have equiped in some easy way.




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AlmiBoawou
Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:17 am
#6






MrFile wrote:

Thank you for the reply all, i think im starting to see your point.


Can someone though explain to me how you +5/+10 etc actully improves our weapons use speed? Does it work like 0-100%, so at +100 on rifle speed ill have 1 second weapon no matter what it is and damage and drain is all i should worry about?


Maybe i just dont know where to look, but ifind it amazing that i cant see how my characters abilities reflect on the weapon i have equiped in some easy way.




I've wondered about that too. No one seems to know for sure... it looks like the +100 might do exactly that, but a bh/pistoleer can have something like +130 pistol or something. My rifle is a 9 speed, and fires normally at like 2-3 seconds I think (never actually timed it), with +65 rifle speed.


Also, I'm wondering if anyone knows at what point the 1 second cap is applied. Like headshot3 takes 3x more time to fire... so is the minimum rate for that going to be 3 seconds? Or is it potentially less?

Gazkan
Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:35 am
#7

Laser Rifle is armor piercing 2...really, I find thespraystick is purely a grouping weapon as rarely do I get 40m+ of room to go prone in that situation. Asmy rifle accuracy and speed improves,I'm going to toss out the spraystick completely.
Rortt
Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:51 pm
#8

Slower weapons with more damage also:
1- decay slower
2- make power ups last longer (more damage per power up)
3- do more damage per HAM cost for special moves

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Fraktur
Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:12 am
#9

I love spraysticks, but their damage output is less than my T21, or Laser Rifle. With their fast firing rate, they really kill the HAM also.


The best use I have found for a spraystick is crowd control! Try this next time... use your T21/Laser for mindshot1 & 2, then nail the bugger with headshots. When Mr. Monster gets within 30 meters of you, switch to spraystick, and spam "Warning Shot" at it. The massive firing rate of the spraystick will virtually keep monsters away from you, then switch back to the t21/Laser...


Rinse... Wash... Repeat...

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