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Thread: Rifleman exploiter or just a power-player?

Pilat
Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:48 am
#1

I recently saw a rifleman in NS caves, shooting his rifle faster then a TKM. He said it was because he just used speed enchancing skill tapes. Is that normal or....?



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chiefccw
Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:52 am
#2

There is a 1 second speed cap.


No profession can hit faster than that no matter what speed mods they have or what weapon they use.


Using a T21 with a speed slice, you can hit the speedcap. Skill tapes would make this even easier. Therefore he wasnt hitting faster than a TKM but hitting at the same speed.








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Pilat
Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:02 am
#3

so u say that is perfectly posible? =) btw, any way I coul calculate my current speed to see how far from cap I am? And to find proper tapes mostly, hehe



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Waste93
Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:32 am
#4






Pilat wrote:

so u say that is perfectly posible? =) btw, any way I coul calculate my current speed to see how far from cap I am? And to find proper tapes mostly, hehe






Go to your skill screen and look at your speed mods. That is a percent reduction. So if your base speed is 9 (like on a T21) and you have a +50 that means a 50% reduction so it would be at 4.5 .


One thing to remember is that specials have speed multipliers. So that increases the delay. You'll have to figure out what the delay is for each special also to get a completely accurate count.



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Seflyn
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:41 am
#5

If my memory serves me a TKM gets 120 speed, meaning no matter what special or weapon you will hit the one second cap.



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Xyber_Hex
Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:18 am
#6

You also may have been confused by an area attack which could look like many shots in a row really fast




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JasonK
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:24 am
#7

Or the rifleman could have experienced some lag that caused a few specials in the queue to fire off at the same time. One time the lag was so bad for me I had like 10 shots go off in the same second.



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Teioh
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:36 am
#8

I would hope that a rifleman would be able to shoot his rifle faster than a TKM would!



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PyscoJuggalo
Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:30 pm
#9






Teioh wrote:

I would hope that a rifleman would be able to shoot his rifle faster than a TKM would!






Why should a TKM Fire a rifle faster then us!!!! Damit TKM's should fire rifles much slower then us, we mastered rifles not them damit!!!



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Sotaudi
Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:51 pm
#10






Pilat wrote:

so u say that is perfectly posible? =) btw, any way I coul calculate my current speed to see how far from cap I am? And to find proper tapes mostly, hehe





As mentioned in an earlier post, the speed will be dependent on your weapon, your personal speed mod, and the delay on your special. Using the basic speed formula, you can rearrange the variables and determine the personal speed mod needed to reach the speed cap by using the following formula:


Where:


pm = your personal speed mod needed to reach the speed cap
ws = the weapon speed
sd = the delay multiplier of your special


pm = 100 - ((1 / (ws [*sd])) / 0.01)


Example: a 7.0 second weapon (typical T21) firing Strafeshot2 with a 3.5 second delay multiplier:


pm = 100 -((1 / (7 * 3.5)) / 0.01) = 95.9, or 96


Thus, with a speed mod of +90, a Master Rifleman needs +6 in speed tapes to hit the speed cap. He could also add Master Marksman with its +5 to speed, and only need +1 in speed tapes.


Just take your special delay and the speed of your weapon and plug them into the formula above. Then compare that to your personal speed mod and you know how much "help" you need to reach the speed cap.


BTW, the basic speed formula (so you can tell what speed you are actually hitting) is:


actual speed = ws[*sd] * (1 - (pm * .01))


(Note: the speed delay is needed only if you are using a special. If you are using a normal autoattack, either leave out the sd or use 1.)





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