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LongWalk

Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:22 pm

I was comparing my new/old T21 and I'm not as dissapointed as I thought (except for the huge mind costs).My comments (stats below):

1) DPS (Damager Per Second)is actually better with new T21.
2) Bleeds got nerfed, because of the min/max damage decrease,and damage is king for bleeds.
3) MPS (Mind Per Second) can be almost double depending on speed/damage sliced.

This means that we can't shoot as long. Although, I'm not finding this a problem with spice and food buffs. If bleeds are important I drop bleeds with the old T21 and swap to the new T21 after the bleeds "stick". I have to say using Startle Shot 2 with a new speed sliced T21 is incredible.

Comments, criticisms?

Anyways, here's the stats:

Assumptions
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All with ~33% slicing.
All with ~32% dmg, ~16% mind powerups

Pre-Patch (Damage Sliced)
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Min: 192
Max: 698
Mind: 62
Speed: 9.6
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DPS: 46
MPS: 6.5

Post-Patch (Speed Sliced)
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Min: 116
Max: 423
Mind: 62
Speed: 5.1
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DPS: 53
MPS: 12

Post-Patch (Damge Sliced)
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Min: 154
Max: 562
Mind: 62
Speed: 7.6
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DPS: 47
MPS: 8.2

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HawaiianToast

Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:36 pm

#2

Just wait till you get master, that slower firing/higher dmg t21 will seem a lot better. Even with my pre-nerf t21s, my mind gets completely f**ked in a matter of seconds. That's as a zabrak with maxed mind stats.

HawaiianToast

Fri Aug 29, 2003 9:41 pm

#3

Btw, the new T21s ARE a nerf because of that. The ham costs are the same, so if you spend your entire mind bar shooting with a new T21 you'll have done a lot less total damage than pre-nerf.

The devs are slick with thier nerfing.

tacobizell

Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:59 am

#4

I agree, the new T21s are substantially worse at master. At master I can't even tell the speed difference shooting a new 6.5 second T21 vs an old 9.5. But the old one does a hell of a lot more damage.

- Hatch
Outer Rim Alliance

LongWalk

Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:22 pm

#5

Yah, even with the damage sliced I can see it being a problem at master. With +600 mind/focus/willpower spice and then some food/drink can you sustain the burn rates of the new guns?

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RhysMarantz

Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:46 pm

#6

At master rifleman, the most important thing is the damage on your rifle. The only way your headshot3s would take longer than 2 seconds each is if your T21 had a 10+ second speed.

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Darkshot

Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:27 am

#7

Well this is all reasuring, since now I know that once Starsider even GETS the resources to make a T21, they will be good again after all. Now I wonder how long that could take...

Darkshot
Master Rifleman

-Myrick-

Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:09 pm

#8

Post-Patch (Damge Sliced)
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Min: 154
Max: 562
Mind: 62
Speed: 7.6
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DPS: 47
MPS: 8.2

Is this actually correct. Is it good materials or what ?

Hell that's better damage than my pre nerf T21 which capped at 504 with a damage slice. and the min is only like 30 pts less than my pre nerf. Well, I guess i don't feel to bad now, i'll be getting a boost heh.

Myrick

-Myrick-

Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:52 pm

#9

Yea I realize that was with a power up, so its a bit lower than I originally thought. But going from what I have to what may come later I'm not as upset about the changes.

Myrick

LongWalk

Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:08 am

#10

Myrick,
Those numbers are accurate for a T21 with 33% slicing and a powerup with 32% dmg and 16% mind costs. Your server will be different depending on resources. I compare that, because I always have it sliced with powerups.

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