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Thread: this rifle any good 404 base dps
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heela
Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:19 pm
#1
4%speed
2%dmg
3%crit
1.84 speed
505-985dmg
10%wounds
404base dps
104 sac
worth anything ?
Pink-Floyd
Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:00 pm
#2
not really, but an ok grind rifle
the best oen i've seen was in the high 600's dps, with only 82 SAC
oh and the rifle i use now is 464 dps (saving up to get a better one)
Message Edited by Pink-Floyd on 07-30-2005 08:06 PM
RebRifle
Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:46 pm
#3
your first lesson, that dps on the gun means nothing, second its SAC is to high, on a rifle you want high max dmg and low sac then the rest into speed
RebRifle
Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:25 pm
#4
ok first try shooting that rifle, even with action food a cl80 will drain thier action in 30-50 seconds and thats a generous estimate. And the dps means nothing on a gun because the calculation used is essentially flawed it doesn't take into acount specal used and the random ness of the damage as well as your acuracy. As for high and min damage they should be the highest possible since the rifleman is a nuke in one attack he can deal out more hurt then any other. + the higher the min the better you will get through defenses. Its a number of factors that go into out answers, and speed can always be sliced sac cannot, and damage is most important to a rifleman. So to sum it up in importance from the highest DMG, SAC, then speed.
Message Edited by RebRifle on 07-31-2005 02:28 PM
Jaydie
Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:12 am
#5
I understand how high max damage is desireable, but I'm not quite sure why people are saying DPS means nothing. Wouldn't you want a faster attack rate? Or are the speed modifiers not working as intended?
Message Edited by Jaydie on 07-31-2005 12:13 PM
Drakenya
Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:39 am
#6
Jaydie wrote:
I understand how high max damage is desireable, but I'm not quite sure why people are saying DPS means nothing. Wouldn't you want a faster attack rate? Or are the speed modifiers not working as intended?Message Edited by Jaydie on 07-31-2005 12:13 PM
Speed does matter, but not all that much, and DPS factors in min dmg but there is no randomness in the dmg delt, so that dont work. Also, a high DPS and a high SAC is worse than mid DPS and mid/low SAC, as SAC determines how many times you can fire.
Jaydie
Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:42 am
#7
With Action Regen Buffs/Foods, and a SAC decreasing Powerup, you can spam high damage specials without running out of action. With that in mind, wouldn't high DPS matter?
Pink-Floyd
Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:55 am
#8
DPS is opnly useful for a very general idea of how good the rifle is.
dentorious
Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:35 am
#9
LD-1 kinetic rifle
1190 max damage
speed 1.69
538.7 DPS
SAC 95
Ackehece
Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:35 pm
#10
dentorious wrote:
LD-1 kinetic rifle
1190 max damage <---- this is possible?????
speed 1.69
538.7 DPS
SAC 95
RebRifle
Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:13 pm
#11
Ackehece wrote:
dentorious wrote:
LD-1 kinetic rifle
1190 max damage <---- this is possible?????
speed 1.69
538.7 DPS
SAC 95
Thats what i was thinking maybe a powerup?
OrizCore
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:26 pm
#12
Seems like that gun has a speed powerup and a damage powerup on it or something, those guns just dont get damage that high.
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