Rifleman Archive
Thread: Rifles need work
I am a rifleman/bounty hunter. I took bounty hunter for eye shot, which I though we be good enough to finish off mobs that get close to me, which is more than I would like. I can hit almost as hard with eye shot as I do using headshot 3 on a 130 to 215 DLT, not sure on the low end. My scatter also seems to have armor piercing. Against AR 1 mobs it easy does twice the damage as my DLT. I dont know if this is a bug or not. It was a Giant Carion Spat that I was fighting, I would hit for about 250 with my DLT and around 500 with my Scatter. I thought all pistols were AR0. Maybe it is a damage type that made the difference with the mob.
Anyway, my point is I hit almost as hard with my Scatter, it is really nice I have to admit, 122 to 169 2.1. It shoots every 2 seconds my rifles is 5.2, I also use a 111 to 178 3.7. I think rifles need to do more damage. A pistol should not be able to hit almost has hard and shoot more than twice as fast. The DPS difference is huge.
Scatter 122 to 169 2.1 = 69.28 DPS
Scatter 98 to 135 1.5 = 77.67 DPS
DLT 111 to 178 3.7 = 39.05
DLT 128 to 215 5.2 = 32.98 - I think the 128 is correct for the low end
The difference in DPS is way to much. Even if you had a T-21 that did 170 to 550 8.0 your dps would only be 45. I can rip through mobs so much easier with a pistol than I can my rifle. Granted I do not have any high end rifles that are worth anything on Starsider yet but with a decent t-21 it doesnt seem to close the gap. We need to be able to drop a mob before it gets close to us. This is not going to happen when we deal less damage than othe classes. Why should I be able to drop mobs at a distance with my pistol and not suffer the same damage penalty with a rifle, when I cant do it with my rifle. I know people will say use warning shot or conceal shot, I love conceal, but it just takes so much longer to kill using those methods. I hope things improve with higher lvl rifles and this will all be just a bad memory. Right now I feel like the king of ranged weapons is a pistoleer or BH. Hopefully we will be put on top one day where we belong.
You might want to think about upgrading that rifle, but you are right that rifles and pistols are not balanced. I don't think rifles need to do any more damage than they do right now though, I use a laser rifle that does 16-334 damage 5.4 speed 59mind cost. Which is more than enough damage, but I think pistols need to do less damage more than a rifle needing to do more.
It is much easier to solo with a pistol right now, since they deal damage so much faster and with out the damage penalty agianst melee. That is why I think rifle damage should be up'd or maybe they could give us more shots before the mob rushes us. If I dont kill it in 3 shots I am in for some hurting with mindshot. I like conceal shot but hate hitting ever HAM and killin the thing 3 times over. Anyway I had a good day of xping so I am pretty happy now. Friend brought along a nice pet to tank for us, made a big difference.
Use warning shot. I use warning shot to solo most anything... just hurts when it doesn't work 
Yes, Rifles do need to be worked on, but I'd rather have a pistol do a lot less damage then it does now. I am guessing they are working on these issues.If you have rifleman and have MindShot2 then it can stack with MS1 if you didn't know that already.
I dont use faster weps, they dont really shoot any faster at master hehe!
It all seems to even out at master.. but thats at master.
Myself being master, I pretty much switch between rifles depending on the mob and its ar. If its got ar2-ar3, I use a laser rifle (my god, and I used to hate these things). If its ar0-ar1 I use a dlt20a. If your not master, I suggest a spraystick for ar0-ar1 mobs, especially if grouped.
Problem right now is really the ham costs.