Rifleman Archive

Thread: Encouraging logs for the discouraged.

Gazkan
Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:46 pm
#1

After reading all the posts, I thought I would post this.. i saw a bunch of Malkloc on Dathomir altogether and thought I would have some fun... check this out, I am a master rifleman, not master marksman yet (need some more apprenticeship xp dammit!) and this is what you can do if you're willing to commit the points to be a master rifleman.. I also have taming2/training2 in the CH class, and Cleo (the pet I sent in on the Malkloc) is a lvl 22 Grand Wrix and the pet took a barely visible sliver of damage. The Malkloc sent my pet running all over the place, but I was in close, about 40m away from the furthest one when I sent the pet in.. notice no misses here.. remember, master rifleman has accuracy bonuses. My gun is a 119-332 T-21 with a 5.0 second delay.. the numbers in the chat box do not include the armor piercing bonuses of the gun so the actual damage was much higher. I would have fired twice as fast if I had master marksman.


[Spatial] 17:11:23 "attack" Whitedust Sunspirit says.
[Spatial] 17:11:32 You go prone.
[Combat] 17:11:32 You go prone.
[Combat] 17:11:32 You lay prone.
[Combat] 17:11:33 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1564 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:33 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc for 1206 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:33 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1917 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:33 You use Advanced Strafe on a young malkloc for 2033 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:33 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2468 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:35 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2154 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:35 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc for 1562 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:35 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 893 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:35 You use Advanced Strafe on a young malkloc for 2137 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:35 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1207 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:11:36 You receive 748 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:11:36 You receive 748 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Spatial] 17:11:36 You receive 74 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:36 You receive 74 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:37 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1808 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:37 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc for 934 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:37 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2220 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:37 You use Advanced Strafe on corpse of a young malkloc for 938 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:37 Your Advanced Strafe misses a malkloc bull.
[Combat] 17:11:39 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc for 1691 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:39 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2335 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:39 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1188 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:41 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2006 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:41 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1306 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:43 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1724 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:11:44 You receive 2727 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:11:44 You receive 2727 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Spatial] 17:11:44 You receive 272 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:44 You receive 272 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:45 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1280 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:11:45 You receive 240 points of Creature Handling experience.
[Combat] 17:11:45 You receive 240 points of Creature Handling experience.
[Spatial] 17:11:48 You receive 494 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:11:48 You receive 494 points of Rifle Weapons experience.


Any questions?

Gazkan
Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:56 pm
#2

errr got cut off, sorry 1 miss in there.. here's the rest:



[Combat] 17:12:00 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2455 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:12:00 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1124 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:12:01 You receive 2885 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:12:01 You receive 2885 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Spatial] 17:12:01 You receive 288 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:12:01 You receive 288 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:12:02 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1202 points of damage!


It also appears that the damage multiplier on strafe shot 2 is 5.0x(1.5xrifle damage), and the speed multiplier is 4.0x(rifle speed/(100-speed bonus))

Gazkan
Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:57 pm
#3

**edit** text editor.. rest of it actually was


[Combat] 17:11:48 You receive 49 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:49 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc for 2301 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:49 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1891 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:58 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1924 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:11:58 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2034 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:11:59 You receive 2867 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:11:59 You receive 2867 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Spatial] 17:11:59 You receive 286 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:11:59 You receive 286 points of Combat experience.
[Spatial] 17:12:00 You receive 240 points of Creature Handling experience.
[Combat] 17:12:00 You receive 240 points of Creature Handling experience.
[Combat] 17:12:00 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 2455 points of damage!
[Combat] 17:12:00 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1124 points of damage!
[Spatial] 17:12:01 You receive 2885 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Combat] 17:12:01 You receive 2885 points of Rifle Weapons experience.
[Spatial] 17:12:01 You receive 288 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:12:01 You receive 288 points of Combat experience.
[Combat] 17:12:02 You use Advanced Strafe on a malkloc bull for 1202 points of damage!

Drunkenjedi420
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:00 pm
#4

Your kidding right?


Anyone can hit a target laying down or Kneeling. The dammage has been done to the Rifleman who is trying to shoot as he is being chased BY A CONSTAT SWARM of intelligent Enemy.


Your point is clear. In a group a Rifleman hasnt changed as long as he doesnt move...


Wrong - Suppres shot is jacked now and Dizzy shot also... the 2 most used skills for me. Even if your sitting standing running it doesnt matter. Its nurfed out the WAZZZOO.


When an inteligent Enemy sees you blasting at him what will he do? Keep hitting your PET? man your nuts. Hes gonna run at you and Mind shot your ass or blast your with Flamethrower. What then, you gotta run, what then, you miss 50% of the time, what then your dead. Unless your really good - but you dont have 2 be. The game should be balanced already for that for everyone to have fun.




Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
Gazkan
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:02 pm
#5

PvP isn't the only part of the game... man your stupid.

Gazkan
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:03 pm
#6

consider more than PvP when they balance classes.

PsychoticChipmunk
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:07 pm
#7

So after I hit master and don't need experience anymorewhat is the point of being a combat character? Ya there is also PvE but when you get tapped out of skill points for your build, well then you only have PvP or revisions...and you can only revise so much



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Drunkenjedi420
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:08 pm
#8

In other words the rifleman is now a sitting duck or a running Dumb arse, unless he has a grand slew of protection or a large ammount of computer gaming experience to snake his way out of sticky situations.



Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
Drunkenjedi420
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:09 pm
#9

Well lets forget PvP - what if you do not have a pet?



Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
Dragonkat
Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:20 pm
#10

Translation of that log: "Don't worry you poor saps still trying to suffer from the sheer utter uselessness that is riflemen as it stands even more so after that last patch!


All you need is master then a bit of star wars o mon from a second profession unlike any other ranged class, learn how to use all your guns you get in marksmen since the T21 is a useless hunk of junk,and get force push to deal with warping 1 smack mobs, and then then!you too can actually be an effective player in the pve arena after pve has become pointless since you're a master! Aint that nifty? Maybe then you'll get one shot before commandos 1 shot you with melee flamethrowers or the devs will spit on us even further then they did today by making LLC's AR3 and insta kill since us evil riflemen with our oh sodangerous (to ourselves still)mind damage are sooo overpowered!


(/pissed as **** sarcasm)


Been there, seen it, don't give a flying **** cause all that log proves is a master with a pet can win, and anything else is still 100% fubared.

TekDragon
Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:46 pm
#11

I codn't give a flying fuk how many times you miss/hit in PvE. Who cares?


The whole point to this game for combat classes is the GCW. And in the GCW, were getting shafted royally.




TekDragon DeSol
Duke Of House Atreides
Pecos
Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:31 pm
#12

And remember kids, anyone not going to be a Master Rifleman is wasting their time!


And yes, once you reach Master Rifleman you will have an easy time gaining rifle XP!


And no, you still won't be able to beat Eyeshot unless you take a shot of Muon Gold first.


PsychoticChipmunk
Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:39 pm
#13






Gazkan wrote:

PvP isn't the only part of the game... man your stupid.






So tell me Mr I'm-so-smart, whats the point of PvE when you a fubaring master? Oh I see your just raking in the combat xp right? You couldn't possibly tell me that hunting with a rifle is useful when I'm maxed out on rifle xp right? Guess what PvP is the only part of the game after you max out your chosen prof. And balancing it so that we suck at both PvP and PvE is good how anyway?



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