Rifleman Archive

5.0 speed E11 Rifle (+50 Rifle speed)

No specials, time between shots: 3 seconds

Headshot 3, time between shots: 5 seconds

Conceal Shot, time between shots: 5 Seconds

Is it actually designed to be this way? If so it would be possible for a master rifleman to actually do more overall damage using no specials than if he had used only head shot 3. Personally I think that makes no sense what so ever. I can see where limiting it so that we don't get a head shot 3 every 2 seconds is a good idea, but that should still be augmented by our skill with the weapon by making it so that certain specials take longer to use, butdon't just set it so that the person with the better gun shoots faster than the person with the higher skill.

I'd imagine that all guns have a minimum speed so that you don't find riflemen hitting with around 1000 damage every second. Considering how there are rifles like the tuskan with a 9sec shot delay then the +50 should work on them. Give it a try and you'll know if it's working or not.

Assuming the following 2 things

1) +50 rifle speed reduces delay between shots by 50%

2) The special moves table on swgcenter is correct

Then this makes perfect sense, no specials = 2.5 sec (rounded up to 3) and headshot3 and conceal shot both have double the delay of a regular shot so it in fact should be 5.0 (2.5x2) which SHOULD be a significant increase to the speed you would see using those same moves without the +speed

Also remember your getting a boost to damage, when you use things like conceal shot and head shot 3. The funny thing is Head shot 3 isnt even our biggest damage dealer. when you get higher up in the tree you wont be using it often. I use it on medics to give them wounds, thats about it. Otherwise, I use an AE so I can attempt to kill multiple targets at once, most ive gotten was 3 rebels at once.

looks right, at +50 your shooting 50% faster, everyone knows that skills take longer.

The speed really isnt working properly right now, because you actually DO shoot for 1000 damage every second, at master you'll just shoot everything at a 1 second speed at least with a 6.9 speed rifle or anything slower. Including all specials and normal attacks and whatever you can come up with. Friend didn't have a T21 to test it with, so not sure on those really high delay rifles.

i heard every +10 speed is -0.1 'real' speed?

The increase doesnt work like that currently, I'm not sure how its supposed to.. the +10 speed = 10% speed increase thing still sounds reasonable though, but it doesnt work like that either right now. (because +90 speed mod is what, 1000% speed increase?)

Reason why it has to be a percentage is that if it was a set number like that +10 speed = -0.1 "real" speed, that'd screw over rifles quite bad (and carbines, just not as bad). Like if we're playing with imaginary numbers, -50% speed on a weapon would theoretically be a 50% dps increase on any weapon, but in the other case, comparing a pistol to a rifle.. Lets say the pistol has 60 damage 3.0 speed, and the rifle has 180 damage and 9.0 speed, both are the same dps. Now we apply a -1.5 speed decrease on both, so we have a 60/1.5 pistol and a 180/7.5 rifle. Pistol dps doubles (20 -> 40) and rifle dps goes up 33% (20 -> 24)

Er, grats me on math, the example rifle speed goes up 20%

Which ability does the AE damage?

What skill is AE?

Novice riflemen.

strafe shot 2.

Er, grats me on math, the example rifle speed goes up 20%