Rifleman Archive

I'm closing in real quick....all I need is about 20k more combat xp, I could get thattomorrow if I pushed it, and PvE, riflemen do alright once you start getting Level 3 counter-sniping and RSA. I can hold my own in groups now, and even match a lot of BH's in XP gains. Riflemen do great inPvE (after being worthless for 99% of the xp gain, the last bit really works nicely). I'd say we're on par with just about any other class as far as damage output in groups. (ie you have tanks and your only job is to output as much dmg/sec as possible)

But there are serious problems in PvP. I can't beat ANYONE in solo PvP. It might be because it seems everyone is a commando or an LLC bh nowdays, but I don't even have a chance against a flame thrower or a LLC. It's not even funny. I take massive damage, I mean ENOURMOUS damage, and I'm doing like maybe 500 dmg per shot if I'm lucky to a random stat pool, or like 400 to mind pools. This is fine damage, but it's almost guaranteed that I'm gonna need 3 good accurate shots to knock anyone off, and all a flame thrower or LLC needs is a single hit.

I know other classes are mad about their own inequities, but seriously, theres a reason why EVERYONE, except the stupid few who got too far along in rifles the first couple weeks to give it up, is going BH or Commando. It offers zero drawbacks in PvE (I heard a commando bragging about doing some ungodly amount of damage near or over the 10,000 mark to some Enemy), and incredible advantages in PvP. I routinely see BH's go 1v3 and win hands down.

The BHs and Commandos really have no relative drawbacks compared to other ranged weapons. I don't mind a TKA rocking my world if I'm foolish enough to fight him inside a med-center because I know I can take him down if he's foolish enough to set foot outside. But a BH can take me down no matter what and I don't have a snowballs chance in hell.

Give me at least a SHOT at a win. I mean, as a rifleman, I can't go solo PvP anymore because virtually everyone is some form of BH or commando.

I'd drop rifleman right now if I thought I could earn my way to BH before they fixit (hell maybe I can).

To those of you who may say: So if you want to PvP, pick a PvP class. Well, I'm about to hit master sharpshooter, there's not much left to the game except PvP and quests, and I'm not going to go off on quests. (And to those of you who'd argue for me tojust wander around and enjoy the scenery -- go **edit** yourselves. Seriously, I never want to meet the type of people that would buy this game and just 'wander around'. You people are freaks.)

Just give me a shot in PvP --- thats all I'm asking. Just a shot.

Krader

To win in PvP as a rifleman it requires that you use a different strategy than other professions. True, 9 times out of 10a rifleman will not win a duel (unless they have some serious mind deficencies) but if you use the following tactics you will be very happy in PvP indeed. I am imperial and to do most of my PvP I hang overt around the outskirts of AH and snipe off rebels and they walk out of the city. This gives me two advantages

1)The element of suprise, I get the first shot off, therefore my chance of being the victor goes up by like 80%

2)I have the range going for me. Because he is far away from me when I see him I can hit him more accurately than he can return fire on me.

Doing these things I win in PvP roughly 90% of the time, it is very rare that someone can defeat me if I have these two advantages, I've even killed 2 or 3 people at the same time before with no problem. I am using a much better laser rifle than normal so usually I can kill people in one or two shots. I also mastered marksman so I have a better speed and accuracy than most rifle users and If by chance the target does get close to me I can just whip out my FWG5 and use one of my pets to kill him, but usually I don't even need a pet out.

When you are doing large scale PvP it is very important to remember that Rifleman is a support class, whether or not you think it should be, that is the way the devs designed us. I try to stay near the back of the fight on my side and snipe off people who's mind is a little down then I use sniper shot on them and collect the FP. Doing this I usually stay alive alot longer than other classes (because none of the rebels are really targeting me when a imp BH is right in front of their face) and I get plenty of kills. If you do these things you will enjoy some sucess in PvP as well.

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Seflyn wrote:
The BH / Commando have a 2.5x damageadvantage against a rifleman because of a bug. Oncethe Devschange heavy weapons from melee damage type to ranged damage type you should find it a lot easier.

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Denzien, Bria server


Artisan 3/0/0/4          Scout 4/0/4/2


Brawler 4/0/0/0         Smuggler 1/0/1/0


Marksman 4/4/0/4      Rifleman 4/1/3/3

I gave up on trying to fight "fair" in pvp. Like the others said I will creep up and mind bleed them, then burst run just keeping them out of firing range. 75-85 meters is what I like, lets them think they can catch me as they mind bleed to death chasing me.

Can't go toe to toe with the BH's or Commandoes, so I fight cheap and run around like a scared school girl. Warning shot with a spray stick works great on pets.

Once you will unlock your 2 last boxes you will get +30 speed, wich is a lot because yout speed approach 100 more and more.

Drastic difference, headshot 3 every second with a laser rifle / Strafe 2 every 2,5-3 sec with my 8speed T21. Personnely it just TRIPLED (X3) my speed from 4 4 4 3 to 4 4 4 4 + master

Of course never pvp without moun gold, thats our main problem once we reach master.. mind.. a good DTL20 might do it.. but the damage might not be enough and you will drop first... I'd say a good T21 is the way to go, or an insane laser rifle.. low numbers on the laser might kill you though.. if your target wears a composite helmet .. pull out the jawa rifle ( I shoot every second with HS3 for 300ish+ through acomposite helmet , 3 seconds should be enough too kill your target, maybe less )

If a BH dont take me by surprise, he won't always win with spamming eye shot against me, it'll be 50/50 depending if my mind was depleted or not, and the random numbers.

1/3 of the time i'm 1 shoting someone in pvp with strafe 2 , numbers scaling from 700 to 1200+ in average

The only one that can own me in pvp if my mind is full are pets, BH's with DizzyKD / LLC and commandos (both last because of the melee bug damage) or course melees own me too if they catch me

Zhug

Master Rifleman - Weaponsmith