Rifleman Archive

AMEN!

And where's my Massassi Ink rifle fer cryin out loud!

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Odinwaa wrote:
Can not use all the rifles? You mean to tell me that I can't pick up a proton rifle and figure out how to use it when I specialize in rifles? I can drive every car out there!

All pistols should be useable by pistoleer.

All Carbines should be used by carbineers.

All rifles should be used by riflemen.

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I was actually thinking about this yesterday in regards to the Squad Leader certed weapons. On my alt I was trying SL and loved the Intimidator pistol and the E5 carbine..... but decided I didn't love them enough to keep Master SL.

My main has been a MBH, MPistoleer, MMarksman since they dropped the Master Scout pre-req months ago, but will probably drop pistols for carbines as I like the styles of Battle armor over Recon and I hate most Assault armors (petty maybe, but what my toon looks like matters to me)

I was thinking how silly it was that as either a Master Carbineer or a Master Pistoleer, there are versions of those types of weapons I can't figure out how to use correctly.... .in fact they are so complicated I can't even pick one up and hold it in my hands !

My thoughts ended up very similar to the quote above.... but in addition to letting a master of the weapon type use any of the weapons, they should still keep the certs in SL, Smuggler or wherever...... so you end up being able to get the cert for the Intimidator pistol at Master Pistoleer, OR Master Squad leader. Yes, I know... this would mean that any Master Carbineer would have access to my precious Proton carbine without even being MBH..... but I thought that was a fair trade for other weapons that I would be able to use too.

That way the individual professions still get a perk, but the cool new weapons are not kept out of the hands of the masses who should be able to enjoy them.

Pistoleer, Carbineer, and Rifleman all got left out of getting any of the certs for the cool new weapons. Oh, sure, some weapons we already had that are perfectly good damage got moved to the Master box in each of those.... but thats not really the same as having access to the nifty new weapons, now is it? (there may be some other newlooted weapons that do end up in the Master box of said professions, but I am unaware of them atm)

I understand why they did it... to add appeal and uniqueness to some classes, but what it seems more likely to do is deny access to a lot of the new weapons to the majority of players.

No offense to Squad leaders, but there are 2 great looking and sounding weapons that will hardly ever be used or seen in combat. (and hard to obtain from weaponsmiths once the respec period is over)

Tap

funny, i can't use a t21 rifle yet, but I can kill you with my featherweightFWG5.

And I don't even have one box in pistols, marks or pistoleer.

Protien err Proton rifle is actually just a rifle by name alone, it's really a HW

Gives HW accuracy and speed mods.......

Can not use all the rifles? You mean to tell me that I can't pick up a proton rifle and figure out how to use it when I specialize in rifles? I can drive every car out there!

All pistols should be useable by pistoleer.

All Carbines should be used by carbineers.

All rifles should be used by riflemen.

I agree with you 100%

The current weapon cert system is without a doubt one of the most ignorant, ill-planned and sloppily implemented systems I've ever seen. Add the insanity of the way armor is certed by what type of weapon you choose specialize in and you've really got to wonder WTH were the thinking?

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Olsson wrote:
The current weapon cert system is without a doubt one of the most ignorant, ill-planned and sloppily implemented systems I've ever seen. Add the insanity of the way armor is certed by what type of weapon you choose specialize in and you've really got to wonder WTH were the thinking?

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Feel free to propose a much better, more well thought-out, insightful, and effective system.

I'm sure it'll garner a lot of support from other players and might draw attention from the powers that be.

If not, well. The rest is pretty obvious, I'd think.

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Grambacca wrote:

AMEN!

And where's my Massassi Ink rifle fer cryin out loud!

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proton rifle sucks anyway. check this.

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=252141

owns every other rifle. wewt ya.

My proposal is simple. If I am an "elite user of rifles" that should mean that I can and know how to use every rifle out there. If they do not want to let me use a proton rifle as a "MASTER RIFLEMAN" then they need to call it something different. Like Proton infusion cannon, or be creative.

It is the old argument. Same for DE's. You mean as a MASTER DE you cant take apart a Droideka and figure out how to build one?

Just seems silly or lazy of the devs not to have the foresight to fix this in the revamp.

And while I am at it, all these rifles should do different things and have different damages. Why do you think I used to use my SG82 on Krayts? Now it just hangs on the wall...BORING!

Not to rain on your parade, Ototh, but even *MY* T-21 whoops that Laser Rifle. My friend's does about 100 damage more than mine, too.

I'm very much hoping that the current combat level req only weapons are eventually going to be certified somewhere. Someone with just Master Pistols + Carbines should not be able to use any kind of rifle beyond a CDEF. They've certainly got no business using an ADVANCED Laser Rifle.
Or, if we're going to be allowed to use weapons that aren't of our professions, there needs to be some kind of hindrance built into them as well, along the lines of the new Armour hindrance system.
Being able to use other professions special skills is fine, but each profession should also have a set of weapons that are "theirs" and not shared with everyone above a certain level.

That ADV Laser Rifle is still better than any T21s I've found for sale on lowca.

It is pathetic that Master Cerit weapons suck compared to general use weapons of the same lvl.