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Thread: What I would just love to see in Rifleman

Balute
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:11 am
#1

Aloha fellow Rifleman!


While I was sitting at the stoplight on my way to work this morning, I was, of course, thinking about SWG and being a Rifleman. Now, I'm also a TKA, but I tell ya...I use my Rifle between 75-85% of the time while playing, both PvP and PvE. Anyway, I was thinking what I would just LOVE to have in this game is the ability to buttstroke...incase of the filter B U T T stroke. You know...buttstroke to the head (KD/Dizzy), buttstroke to the groin (posture change down...you will be grabbing your nuts after this, trust me!). It could be our up close defense, maybe give a KD/Dizzy or something. And imagine the animation on this! Wouldn't it be awsome...some poor TKA / Brawler / Swordsman / Fenxer comes running up to us...we buttstroke him...he falls down totally disoriented...we get back to a good range...and blast him again. Rinse and repeat!


While were on the subject...no buttstroke is complete without a pig-sticker attached to it. So add a bayonnett while were at it. So now we can buttstroke to the head, stab him, run back into good range, and then shoot him! Maybe add a small health bleed to the stabbing.


I would love to see these added...imagine all the fun we could have with it


Add some more if you like...we can all dream, even if the Dev's aint gonna do it!


Ikaika



IKAIKA  FIGHTER  FOTM
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KAMEHAMEHA  JEDI  FUBARD
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
RuinsDomino
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:02 am
#2

that would rock man, like a pistol whip for rifleman. and you know, it makes so much darn sense, there is no way that it will actually happen in this game.



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Flitred
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:26 pm
#3






Thunderello wrote:

M8 your like me...this game rocks big time, so does this profession. im new to it but im liking what i see, and to the guy who sais we should need unarmed 4...What the hell are you talking about (i dont mean thta to be rude) but if you shooting, and someone gets upclose, then just mash him in the head with the but of your gun!, dont take 120 thousand XP to lear how to bang your gun off someones head!.


This is an awesome idea, not originial but the BEST way iv seen it described. the bayonette thing is not maybe the way to go, a knife on the end of your T21 hehe.

Maybe....there is someoway it can be done, like riflebutt combo 1 and 2, 1 KD them and 2 KD/Dizzy + Bleed.

It would totaly negate the balance though....we are supposed to be limeted in melee circumstances. like maybe just combo 1 would be best, which ONLY does KD so we can back off to a better distance, KD dizzy is a bit much. as TKA will have an unfair disadvantage. like a TKA cant throw a knife if your head from 60m away and KD/Dizzy you giving them a chance to move in) (real ranged damage) , so why should be be able to do melee

damage to them?





Scope on a T21 was more of a 'figure of speach', btw...


Rifle Butting/Bayonetting is not a rifle skill...it's a melee skill, hence a BRAWLER pre req...heck if you wanted it that bad, all you need is Unarmed IV + Novice TKA + 1 Block for the unarmed Knockdown as it is.....Seeing how rifles only requires 1 tree from the Marx-man tree, to me this seems to already be available to you. Try it out, let us know how it works. Maybe we could also give riflemen Creature Level + 20, and the ability to use one handed swords since we can swing our rifles so well, plus we'll need to have + 25 Med use because all of our stats are migrated to mind, so we should be smarter too...and don't get me started talking about how we need to clean our weapons in the field, so we should have Rifle Weapon Repair + 50........


/swimsawayfromthedeepend





Sarg Marx

Ranger, Rifleman, MScout, Creature Handler
MMarxman, MCommando, MSmuggler, MArtesian (Holo #1), MArchitect (Holo #2), MDroid Engineer (Holo #3), Master Dancer (Holo #4-to be left unfinished)

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Thunderello
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:40 pm
#4

Hmm, its a defense skill m8. If im shooting you, and i run out of bullets, im gonna try my best to bang you on the head with a gun. Does that mean i have to go through whole unarmed tree to be able to panic and hit you on the head? no, i dont know how to use a gun. but if i have a gun and you start shooting at me, im not gonna say..erm i dont have training with this weapon, i will try and run towards him and punch him. im gonna fire the gun like mad at you!. its a simple thing, HIT HIM ON THE HEAD WITH THE GUN AND THE LEG IT.


Anyone else agree?



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Enclave2k1
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:01 pm
#5

No I dont agree.


Like the other guy said if you want a KD you goto another skill tree, you have the luxury of having alot of spare skill points.



I mean rifle is great how it is, WE DONT NEED A KD, believe me. And the number one reason why it wont be put in, is that it doesnt fit our playstyle. The rifle class is a sniper/gunner depenind how you look at it. Rifle is not meant for close combat. In the hope of maintianing balance between classes, we need to be weak close up. And pistol should be weak at long range (note the use of the word should)


Like filtered said you could go crazy thinking up ways in which we COULD get more skills because it happens in real life. But it doesnt fit the playstyle the class has.



Stop whining rifle is perfect the way it is.




Cleev, the bluest rodian in the galaxy
Questions will be asked and destroyed by answers!


Balute
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:12 pm
#6


Aw, man...it looks like the overprotective society is out in force today. I did not mean for this thread to be a "I'm-weak-and-want-more-stuff-added" thread. The whole point of this thread was to have fun thinking of something cool to add to our profession just for chits-n-giggles. Still don't understand me? Did you even read this part of my post:


...we can all dream, even if the Dev's aint gonna do it!


There, I even bolded it for you folks. This is all stuff I was just thinking would be cool to see in the game. The mechanics of it, while a great idea btw, I never even thought of because this whole thing was a flight of fancy!


As for the you need unarmed 4 BS, when I went through basic in RL, rifle drills were maybe PT or a 1hr class...hand-to-hand was a whole day of rolling in the mud. Besides, if we really want to get technical, it should probably be polearm because that is a 2 handed skill.


And finally, for the guy who said to stop whining...S T F U...I'm a TKA/Rifleman...I own EVERYTHING in this game right now!


Ikaika

Message Edited by Balute on 02-25-2004 03:14 PM



IKAIKA  FIGHTER  FOTM
POHAKU  CRAFTER - GIMPED
KAMEHAMEHA  JEDI  FUBARD
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Thunderello
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:19 pm
#7

Hmm no KD, shouldnt out Headshot attcks knockdown and dizzy people anyway? i mean a bullet solid metal projectile flying and hundreds of miles an hour hitting you right in the head from a trained sniper... and you turm around and just run towards me kicking and punching?



hmm, i dont think the KD is so far fetched for us do you? lol





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*Stocked With Buffs, Krayt Tissues, Holocrons, Skill tapes, And more..
*If there is anything on my vendor you would like to barter for,
*let me Know*

Enclave2k1
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:49 pm
#8

Balute I wasnt refering to you at all. I was talking about thunderello.



Cleev, the bluest rodian in the galaxy
Questions will be asked and destroyed by answers!


Balute
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:51 pm
#9

Sorry Enclave, chitty day at work. I really hate my boss, my boss's boss, the mayor, and the idiot who whined so loud that I had to suddenly stop what I was doing just to take care of their stupid a$$ $150.00 invoice that absolutely HAD to be paid RIGHT THE F NOW or their entire workforce will not get their payroll. Sorry ranting, and I just blew up on you guys here when all I really need to do is go and kill something in game. Please accept my apologies for being so rude and sarcastic earlier. /deepbow


Ikaika





IKAIKA  FIGHTER  FOTM
POHAKU  CRAFTER - GIMPED
KAMEHAMEHA  JEDI  FUBARD
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Flitred
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:00 am
#10

I think if you wanted this type of manuver, you should also be required to have Unarmed IV from the brawler tree. Riflemen don't know how to do hand to hand combat, they are long range 'artillerymen'....hence that nice scope topping your t21s



Sarg Marx

Ranger, Rifleman, MScout, Creature Handler
MMarxman, MCommando, MSmuggler, MArtesian (Holo #1), MArchitect (Holo #2), MDroid Engineer (Holo #3), Master Dancer (Holo #4-to be left unfinished)

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Fred_Skinner
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:16 am
#11

Can't scope a T21 silly...



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


JFirestorm10
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:19 am
#12

You guys ever thougth that we are the most balance class in the game?



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Thunderello
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:59 am
#13

M8 your like me...this game rocks big time, so does this profession. im new to it but im liking what i see, and to the guy who sais we should need unarmed 4...What the hell are you talking about (i dont mean thta to be rude) but if you shooting, and someone gets upclose, then just mash him in the head with the but of your gun!, dont take 120 thousand XP to lear how to bang your gun off someones head!.


This is an awesome idea, not originial but the BEST way iv seen it described. the bayonette thing is not maybe the way to go, a knife on the end of your T21 hehe.

Maybe....there is someoway it can be done, like riflebutt combo 1 and 2, 1 KD them and 2 KD/Dizzy + Bleed.

It would totaly negate the balance though....we are supposed to be limeted in melee circumstances. like maybe just combo 1 would be best, which ONLY does KD so we can back off to a better distance, KD dizzy is a bit much. as TKA will have an unfair disadvantage. like a TKA cant throw a knife if your head from 60m away and KD/Dizzy you giving them a chance to move in) (real ranged damage) , so why should be be able to do melee

damage to them?


The best way seems to be this....its not so much of an attack as a time giver, no damage done, just a Knockdown that gieves us a couple of seconds to get to a better range, also maybe if it does Action/health drain, (100 or so to each) as it is a physical act.. this would be better (and maybe if we can only do it once, if we didnt damage them when we spotted them first, cause lets face it we should have had them Master mind shot anyway.


Whats do you think of this way m8?



"Thunderello" *Master Doctor *Master Rifleman*Vendor Located Behind Stellas In Mos Luna,
*Stocked With Buffs, Krayt Tissues, Holocrons, Skill tapes, And more..
*If there is anything on my vendor you would like to barter for,
*let me Know*

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