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Thread: Klaw was'nt Keldarin Supossed to be looking at the AP System? What happened to EM?
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PyscoJuggalo
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:29 pm
#1
Klaw I remember a long time ago in a universe far far away Keldarin saying AP is ment to reduce the effectiveness of armor. Well we told em the system was wrong and s/he was supposed to look into it, well what happened? And if it was forgotten please remind them because now with Super Robocop armor the system Keldarin was talking about is much better.
Seflyn
Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:17 am
#3
It's broken, well not working as the Devs think it should / does. However the way they think it should work would nail riflemans damage by a lot on lower end mobs, it would also make anyone without AP2 or greater worthless on an awful lot of mobs.
PyscoJuggalo
Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:27 am
#4
Seflyn wrote:
It's broken, well not working as the Devs think it should / does. However the way they think it should work would nail riflemans damage by a lot on lower end mobs, it would also make anyone without AP2 or greater worthless on an awful lot of mobs.
Ya it would screw us on low end MOB's, but it would help more on those High end MOB's with 90% energy protection and AR 1 or 2. Would also help a great bit in PVP because that 80% effective armor becomes 40% effective verse the T-21.
XaverriJade7
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:31 am
#5
Haha, I just read that thread again yesterday and thought: 'Hmm, I never heard Keldarin's response to this..'
Q-3PO: "Wait for the combat revamp"
Blah.
Q-3PO: "Wait for the combat revamp"
Blah.
BlasterForHire
Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:01 am
#7
It works in pve, just on a microscopic level.
the only time I've actually observed it is during our guild Krayt hunts.
We typically take 5-6 master rifles to hunt krayts; and, I've seen their resists drop from 60% to high 30's before they die with all of us spamming HS3 with jacked T21's.
you'd never see it on a regular mob, though-- since the damage you do kills it before it's armor value degrades. In other words, I think it degrades on a per attack basis, rather than a per % of overall ham basis.
the only time I've actually observed it is during our guild Krayt hunts.
We typically take 5-6 master rifles to hunt krayts; and, I've seen their resists drop from 60% to high 30's before they die with all of us spamming HS3 with jacked T21's.
you'd never see it on a regular mob, though-- since the damage you do kills it before it's armor value degrades. In other words, I think it degrades on a per attack basis, rather than a per % of overall ham basis.
LLJK_Griz
Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:52 am
#8
PyscoJuggalo wrote:
Klaw I remember a long time ago in a universe far far away Keldarin saying AP is ment to reduce the effectiveness of armor. Well we told em the system was wrong and s/he was supposed to look into it, well what happened?
Several correspondents and players collected a very large amount of data, presented it to the devs, and were told that all their data was wrong. The devs think the system is working in a way that it is obviously not, and if they won't listen to the correspondents then it'll probably never be fixed.
klawlegna
Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:57 pm
#9
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Q-3PO: "Wait for the combat revamp"
This is thelikey answer I will get.
beamstalk
Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:03 pm
#10
klawlegna wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Q-3PO: "Wait for the combat revamp"
This is thelikey answer I will get.
LOL, this almost sounds like a give up on your part even Klaw. I think the odds are 1000000000 to 1 that you will not get this answer.
PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:26 pm
#12
He'll give you that answer too huh? So outside of having a special tag and secretive forum what's the difference between you and us?
PyscoJuggalo
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:13 pm
#13
klawlegna wrote:
XaverriJade7 wrote:
Q-3PO: "Wait for the combat revamp"
This is thelikey answer I will get.
Klaw is now the official Rifleman correspondent.
/gives klaw the badge we were hiding in Cheese dip in the Rifleman Hall
Wear it with pride
/salute
I figured as much, ok in 2 years remind em
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