Rifleman Archive
Thread: Advice Pls Help!
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Galactic_Funkster
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:37 am
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I am currently a M.Marksman /M.Rifleman/Scout/Medic/CH. I need advice on a new template I am thinking about. I have read many post but im still not sure if my thinking is correct on this.
What I want is a Uber PVP , I am pretty good at PVP already however my main flaw is defence agaist melee (DOH! Ur a rifleman i here u say!) So this is the template I propose to Combat that problem. Can you advice if I have missed anything, please bear in mind I still want to be purely rifleman offensive (not bothered about melee attacks)
Marksman 4004 (I will buy Tapes to Compensate for loss of Rifle Speed /acurracy)
Brawler
Galactic_Funkster
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:42 am
#2
I am currently a M.Marksman /M.Rifleman/Scout/Medic/CH. I need advice on a new template I am thinking about. I have read many post but im still not sure if my thinking is correct on this.
What I want is a Uber PVP , I am pretty good at PVP already however my main flaw is defence agaist melee (DOH! Ur a rifleman i here u say!) So this is the template I propose to Combat that problem. Can you advise if I have missed anything, please bear in mind I still want to be purely rifleman offensive (not bothered about melee attacks)
Marksman 4004 (I will buy Tapes to Compensate for loss of Rifle Speed /acurracy)
Brawler 4400
Fencer 4440 (Mainly for Defence agaist KD ------- Will this be viable all the time or does it only work when i have a melee weap equiped? )
TK 4400 (For Meditation,Powerboost,ForceofWill and more Melee Defence etc)
Medic1001 (For heals )
M.Rifleman 4444 (Because I love it!)
This works out that my Ranged and Melee Defence are maxed and I have good Mitagation (Ranged 1-3,Melee 1-2) and Good defence agaist K.D,Blind,Dizzy.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Wastoid
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:47 am
#3
Here's some advice....... STOP SPAMMING THE BOARDS!!!!!
You dont have to post the same damn message 5 times. It makes people LESS likely to answer you.
Galactic_Funkster
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:48 am
#4
BTW : Not sure what happened with regards to the multiple post here ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Galactic_Funkster
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:52 am
#5
As I said sorry " I did not intentionally SPAM " I didnt even submit more than one however I did go back ? ?? In any case it was unintended ! And I have found no way to delete them ......so hopefully a MOD will .
beamstalk
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:06 am
#6
Galactic_Funkster wrote:
I am currently a M.Marksman /M.Rifleman/Scout/Medic/CH. I need advice on a new template I am thinking about. I have read many post but im still not sure if my thinking is correct on this.
What I want is a Uber PVP , I am pretty good at PVP already however my main flaw is defence agaist melee (DOH! Ur a rifleman i here u say!) So this is the template I propose to Combat that problem. Can you advise if I have missed anything, please bear in mind I still want to be purely rifleman offensive (not bothered about melee attacks)
Marksman 4004 (I will buy Tapes to Compensate for loss of Rifle Speed /acurracy)
Brawler 4400
Fencer 4440 (Mainly for Defence agaist KD ------- Will this be viable all the time or does it only work when i have a melee weap equiped? )
TK 4400 (For Meditation,Powerboost,ForceofWill and more Melee Defence etc)
Medic1001 (For heals )
M.Rifleman 4444 (Because I love it!)
This works out that my Ranged and Melee Defence are maxed and I have good Mitagation (Ranged 1-3,Melee 1-2) and Good defence agaist K.D,Blind,Dizzy.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Don't mind Wastoid, we all know how iffy these boards can be causing multiposts.
Honestly I think I would try to master TK or Fencer instead of just picking and choosing it seems to actually help more that way. This is just my 2 credits though. Other than that this is the classic defense stacker template it is still good even with the cap. If you like this style of play you will like it, but it is easier finding something that fits your style of play and learning the ins and outs of it instead.
Once again that is just my 2 credits, if it is worth anything,
Sotaudi
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:39 am
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beamstalk wrote:
Galactic_Funkster wrote:
I am currently a M.Marksman /M.Rifleman/Scout/Medic/CH. I need advice on a new template I am thinking about. I have read many post but im still not sure if my thinking is correct on this.
What I want is a Uber PVP , I am pretty good at PVP already however my main flaw is defence agaist melee (DOH! Ur a rifleman i here u say!) So this is the template I propose to Combat that problem. Can you advise if I have missed anything, please bear in mind I still want to be purely rifleman offensive (not bothered about melee attacks)
Marksman 4004 (I will buy Tapes to Compensate for loss of Rifle Speed /acurracy)
Brawler 4400
Fencer 4440 (Mainly for Defence agaist KD ------- Will this be viable all the time or does it only work when i have a melee weap equiped? )
TK 4400 (For Meditation,Powerboost,ForceofWill and more Melee Defence etc)
Medic1001 (For heals )
M.Rifleman 4444 (Because I love it!)
This works out that my Ranged and Melee Defence are maxed and I have good Mitagation (Ranged 1-3,Melee 1-2) and Good defence agaist K.D,Blind,Dizzy.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Don't mind Wastoid, we all know how iffy these boards can be causing multiposts.
Honestly I think I would try to master TK or Fencer instead of just picking and choosing it seems to actually help more that way. This is just my 2 credits though. Other than that this is the classic defense stacker template it is still good even with the cap. If you like this style of play you will like it, but it is easier finding something that fits your style of play and learning the ins and outs of it instead.
Once again that is just my 2 credits, if it is worth anything,
Just to expand on whatthe Beamster is saying, bear in mind that adding to melee defense will not help you that much while you are holding your Rifle. Defense vs. xxxx and + to Block (the latter of which isnot a part of your template) will help. But it is widely held that additional melee defenses do not do much to mitigate the To-Hit melee bonus against us. Thus, whileboosts toDefense vs. xxxx will help some, you are not going to pickup much help while you are holding onto your rifle. The real benefit to adding a melee profession will come when you switch to that melee weapon (especially, since our +40 to melee defense will work to improve your melee defense when you are not holding a rifle).
Because of the To-Hit bonus against us while holding a rifle, you will be justifiably gimped against melee attacks unless you change to another weapon. If you do switch, if you do not Master one of the melee professions you are looking at, then you are gimping yourself because you will not be highly effective as a melee fighter either.
Therefore, Beamstalk is absolutely correct, you need to consider mastering a melee profession rather than just dabbling in several.
I bow to the ubberness of his sage advice.
UWSkeletor
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:55 am
#8
***** darn double post
Message Edited by UWSkeletor on 04-14-2004 12:56 PM
Galactic_Funkster
Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:23 pm
#9
Thxs for the advice Guys 
I can see what ur saying and I thought as much myself however I really dont want to be offensive in any otherway than rifle ! U see I the trouble only seems to come in PVP. I tend to attack groups of 4-5 and most of the time come out on top but then i see out the corner of my eye a TK or some other melee toon running my way. Then Bam ! im on the Deck (KD) Still not finished so i get up and start to get some distance and BAM! (KD) punch punch and im dead ! So the way I'm thinking is "if i can only just get a bit of distance as soon as soon as I see one comin, Idrop my rifle, start to run (hopefully get some chance agaist KD) and better still get some defence against any punches heading for my face, maybe throw a few myself, but basically get to a reasonable distance to pop my rifle and kite the sucker till he's dead."
Is this not feasible ?
Anyway I've started down the road now ! Im so surprised how much dmg brawlers do early on .....I never did that much.......I've almost cleared Brawler tree's in a couple of hours !!!
So If this really isn't feasible then i will just continue to Master fencer or TK........but please tell me could this work ?
OditeFosore
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:31 pm
#10
Marksman 4004 (I will buy Tapes to Compensate for loss of Rifle Speed /acurracy)
Brawler 4400
Fencer 4440 (Mainly for Defence agaist KD ------- Will this be viable all the time or does it only work when i have a melee weap equiped? )
TK 4400 (For Meditation,Powerboost,ForceofWill and more Melee Defence etc)
Medic1001 (For heals )
M.Rifleman 4444 (Because I love it!)
I like your idea (cause it's close to my template). I might suggest a little change though. You're keeping medic crafting at 5 pts, not sure you need that. You'd be at 1000 medic then. You have TKA 4400 and I'd suggest 4000. That will free enough points, I think, to master fencer. If not, drop the top box or two of marksmen to make it 4003 or so. Powerboost, set your COB macro, then get your rifle out and start whacking folks. Your melee defenseswill notwork when you're holding a rifle but COB and powerboost will still be working and, when a meleer gets close, you'll surprise them by pulling out a stun baton and whacking'em.
Just my $.02
Cheers,
- Odite Fosore
OditeFosore
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:33 pm
#11
Another reason to master fencer is that you'll get melee damage mitigation 3 which is very nice...."and that's all there is to say about that..."
Cheers,
- Odite Fosore
Galactic_Funkster
Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:17 pm
#12
Cheers thanks for all good advice all. BTW the medic thing was a mistake but i couldnt be bothered to reedit (or not) 
I think i might well try the fencer idea. though i dont want to lose supression. but time will tell.
I think i might well try the fencer idea. though i dont want to lose supression. but time will tell. Thanks again
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