Rifleman Archive
Thread: Why is proactive such a bad thing?
I see your point, however you are banking on the Devs actually reading your posts.
Voicing concerns is a good idea. Preaching rumor as fact is what gets people up in arms.
BlasterForHire wrote:
it worked for BH's. They were pretty vocal about being opposed to eyeshot getting moved to MBH, and it never happened.
moving eyeshot to bh much like the rumour of a 3-second rifle speed cap was a player generated suggestion that took life all on its own. it was actually brought up by the first BH correspondent not by the devs.
as for stealth nerfs name one.
what people think stealth nerfs are, are actually bugs that had unintended effects. i dont know of a single software company that puts out notes on bugs that they are not aware of having unintended effects. when they get noticed the bugs get fixed and generally arent commented on since the fix causes the system to work as intended. sometimes the bug enhances our ability sometimes not when it enhances our ability and they fix the bug and the system starts to work as intended people yell stealth nerf when there isnt a patch note saying they fixed a non-working bit of the game that should have been working.
the other way "stealth" nerfs happen is people just dont read the patch notes or keep up to date on the fixes and changes as they happen and are addressed in the bug threads the devs put out. so the rumours of "stealth" nerfs start. a good example is patch 6 for one day no one unlocked their force slots so of course all the noobs taking a statisticaly oddity as a stealth nerf. they then yelled about it like a bunch of morons and all the while for the next two weeks people continued to post on how they opened their slots. almost a month later now and morons STILL think that jedi system has changed for unlocking...
so as for me personally i will trust the patch notes before i trust some dork posting about "stealth" nerfs the track record for dorks being right about "stealth" nerfs isnt very high.
Message Edited by Barb-Wire on 03-09-2004 10:28 AM
nothing wrong with being proactive thats what our correspondent does in their forums for us. we discuss things here he brings it to the devs. when there is something he can talk about that relates to rifles he brings it here. but being proactive on things that someone heard from a friend who got it from some kid who talked to a CSR is not something we should get worked up about...
Message Edited by Barb-Wire on 03-09-2004 10:31 AM
Actually I believed they raised HAM costs on rifle specials with last patch with it not being in the notes.
Does that count as a "stealth nerf"?
dmax999 wrote:Actually I believed they raised HAM costs on rifle specials with last patch with it not being in the notes.
Does that count as a "stealth nerf"?
no they did not HAM costs remained the same. check your wounds on your secondaries...
Barb-Wire wrote:
no they did not HAM costs remained the same. check your wounds on your secondaries...
dmax999 wrote:
Actually I believed they raised HAM costs on rifle specials with last patch with it not being in the notes.
Does that count as a "stealth nerf"?
Barb, believe what you want, they did. 1000/1100/900 on my mind stats. Before that patch my OC1 shot (was still grinding back to Master at that point) was 55 mind cost. Post patch it was 59. And I'll take things I see on the correspondants forums as possible fact thank you, I'd weigh them more than a rumor I heard. Don't disrespect me by saying that I can't tell the difference between idle chitchat among disgruntled players and what I read being discussed by TH and the Correspondants.
Anyway, why are you still here? You're going BH, so go worry about killing our dear Rifle correspondant's Jedi. Obviously
you've got other things to do, so leave us be.
On the other hand, I don't know why people like Barb enjoy remaining blind to possibilities.So for all of you out there that doubt what I've said, fine. I don't care. I'll still be here when 1/2 of youguys say you'll either quit or switch. To those that are going to stick it out no matter what, you have my respect, and pray that these "rumors" are wrong.
He's right... Hate to say it but he is absolutely right.
I dont post much but i do read all the boards and i read them as much as i play swg... and i play swg alot...and if there is one thing that is constant on all boards is whining.
Not saying that anyone doesnt have the right to whine, am just saying what did it get anyone in this game so far.
Its one thing to whine ( dont do this and dont do that ) but its a totaly different thing when you have 20 + servers of just rifleman/women shouting the same message... they have to listen...
The only way to do it is like the wookies did it.... you have to show the devs that its not just or correspondant fighting the fight but all rifleman / women are willing to get out there and prove to them how much we love what we do and who we are....
And about the stealth nerf... what profession in game that has been metioned by some troll to be UBER that hasn't gotten the nerf bat to the head... name one...
Fight the good fight.. RIFLEMAN are perfect the way they are.. only thing is say.. Make us easier to hit by Melee professions but at the same time you DEVS have to improve on or accuracy while moving because that would be the only way tocompeat in PvP / PVE when youvictim closes that gap... we will have to use kitting to survive.... I say if worst comes to worst make or speed cap 2 sec...
just my take on things... i know i haven't been here as long as others but i see and read alot....