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Thread: Borked t-21 or borked Rifleman

takiana
Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:14 pm
#1


I am having a delima.


My fairly good t-21 13x-38x 5.0speed un-puped is not doing nearly the damage that my dxr-6b against stuff that has more acid resist. For example a critter has 40% acid resist and 30% energy, I would think ( and I would be wrong ) that the t-21 with highter damage would do more averagedamage than dxr-6b ( 4.4 /1xx-32x) but with Flushing2 the t-21 hits for 127,150,145 etc.. and the

dxr-6b is hitting for 1245,1232, 1190,1560, etc. I have found this time and time again. ( the condition of the t-21 is 890/927, and the dxr-6b is 250/650.



Anyone know what is going on?


3132 rifleman, 4044 scout, 1033 squad leader, 2130 medic and loving it.


Ducimus
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:22 pm
#2

>>My fairly good t-21 13x-38x

Are you saying your T-21 does 130ish to 380ish damage?

Look for an upgrade if so, that thing is junk. Only the crappy weapons are sold on market cause of the 6K credit cap., the good ones are in player vendors.



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dfates
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:48 pm
#3

It looks like she is leveling usinga speed sliced t21. Maybe on that server it is not that junky *shrugs*. It looks like they are around same dmg..with T21 having slightly higher max. In theory it should do more dmg than the tenloss not only because the critter has less resists vs. energy...but also because of the T21s AP.



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Ducimus
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:02 pm
#4

The thing about a T-21 is that generally speaking it has a trade off: is a bit slower, has poorer range mods, and uses alot more mind, than say, a laser rifle.

Unless of course its well made.

My point is, just because you can use a T-21, doesnt mean you should. Personnaly i stuck with a laser rifle until i found a T-21 worth the cost of using it, and when you i got one worth using, it was WELL worth it. The statistics he or she lists for that T-21, in my opinion, isnt worth the trade off. But in the end, you make do with what you can get, so mileage varies.



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Boberino
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:03 pm
#5

T-21 is slower, and from your sig, you're not a Master Rifleman/Riflewoman yet.


The extremely low damage is probably a bug.



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Ducimus
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:16 pm
#6

>>and from your sig, you're not a Master Rifleman/Riflewoman yet.

If your going to say im full of excrement, and whatever i say is idiocy because i dont have the ingame skill of "master"......
be a man and just say it, dont flame me and hide behind words that imply it.

I never said i was a master, nor did i imply i was the guru at rifles. I spoke out of my own experience trying to help a guy out, nothing more, i didn't post here to spar with someones e pein.



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dfates
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:20 pm
#7






Ducimus wrote:
>>and from your sig, you're not a Master Rifleman/Riflewoman yet.

If your going to say im full of excrement, and whatever i say is idiocy because i dont have the ingame skill of "master"......
be a man and just say it, dont flame me and hide behind words that imply it.

I never said i was a master, nor did i imply i was the guru at rifles. I spoke out of my own experience trying to help a guy out, nothing more, i didn't post here to spar with someones e pein.



He was probably talking about the original poster..takiana. Relax..heh heh.




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Boberino
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:22 pm
#8






Ducimus wrote:
>>and from your sig, you're not a Master Rifleman/Riflewoman yet.

If your going to say im full of excrement, and whatever i say is idiocy because i dont have the ingame skill of "master"......
be a man and just say it, dont flame me and hide behind words that imply it.

I never said i was a master, nor did i imply i was the guru at rifles. I spoke out of my own experience trying to help a guy out, nothing more, i didn't post here to spar with someones e pein.






Whoa!


I didn't even read your post, I was refering to the Original poster, Takiana.


No need to be so hostile.


And second of all, you have nothing about rifleman in your signature, so how would I even know you're not Master?


Edit: Spelling.

Message Edited by Boberino on 08-02-2004 06:31 PM



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xPREDATORx
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:37 pm
#9

t21 is a master riflemans weapon full stop....

mite be given at novice but only master can use properly.



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Waste93
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:58 pm
#10






takiana wrote:


I am having a delima.


My fairly good t-21 13x-38x 5.0speed un-puped is not doing nearly the damage that my dxr-6b against stuff that has more acid resist. For example a critter has 40% acid resist and 30% energy, I would think ( and I would be wrong ) that the t-21 with highter damage would do more averagedamage than dxr-6b ( 4.4 /1xx-32x) but with Flushing2 the t-21 hits for 127,150,145 etc.. and the

dxr-6b is hitting for 1245,1232, 1190,1560, etc. I have found this time and time again. ( the condition of the t-21 is 890/927, and the dxr-6b is 250/650.



Anyone know what is going on?


3132 rifleman, 4044 scout, 1033 squad leader, 2130 medic and loving it.






Strange. Based on the condition of the DXR it should be suffering reduced damage output.


Are the numbers you are seeing the combat spam or the floaty damage?


Sounds like a bug to me though. The T21 should be doing more damage. Not 10% are is indicated by what you are saying. If you have another T21 try equipping that to see what happens.


If still no luck put in a /bug report and a CSR ticket.





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takiana
Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:34 am
#11

The problem its a bug. or this bug is a problem.

Could a cloning decay event (insurred of course)cause a massive drop in weapon damage without effecting the condition?


After a powerup wore off the damage on the (speed sliced) T-21 is showing 17-49, however the condition is 78x/890.

Yes it is a medeochre grinding tool and no I not master rifleman.


The rifle is hardly used.


4132 rifleman and loving it.


Thanks for all the feedback guys.
APB
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:25 am
#12




( the condition of the t-21 is 890/927, and the dxr-6b is 250/650.



Strange. Based on the condition of the DXR it should be suffering reduced damage output.




Reduced damage doesn't occur until the weapon goes below 25%, it's armor that starts losing resists at 50%


the DXR6 has another 80-90 condition left before it gets there.




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