Rifleman Archive
Thread: ***Rifleman UPDATE***
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LynkTopaz
Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:05 pm
#1
DarthDrool wrote:
egbertvanloenen wrote:with a 500+ max T-21(had a nice dmg slice), i've NEVER caused a bleed without using ms1 or 2.and i've tried it on the NS rangers in front of the Elder/spellweavers in Ns forced labour cave(about 30 concealshots and they drop) wasn't aggro-ed during all 4.
I thought spellweavers had 100% resists to energy damage? If so I doubt you dropped one with a T21.
he said he did it to the rangers that are closeby to the spellweavers
Ackehece
Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:43 am
#2
what type of rifle?
what is the wound chance?
do you peace after every few shots?
All these and moremay have an effect. It may be that it is completely random - the only true test is if we have a significant body of datum. If you do not get a bleed using the same equipment for 500kills then it may be a valid test. It is known that many people get the bleed while conceal shot when prone with rifles under 400 damage.
Ackehece
Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:48 am
#3
so from the other thread we know you use a T-21
now... wound chance?
do you use powerups?
do you use a /aim /conceal /peace macro?
egbertvanloenen
Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:14 am
#4
with a 500+ max T-21(had a nice dmg slice), i've NEVER caused a bleed without using ms1 or 2.
and i've tried it on the NS rangers in front of the Elder/spellweavers in Ns forced labour cave(about 30 concealshots and they drop) wasn't aggro-ed during all 4.
Ackehece
Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:32 am
#5
egbertvanloenen wrote:
with a 500+ max T-21(had a nice dmg slice), i've NEVER caused a bleed without using ms1 or 2.
and i've tried it on the NS rangers in front of the Elder/spellweavers in Ns forced labour cave(about 30 concealshots and they drop) wasn't aggro-ed during all 4.
Exactly - the reasons for the bleed are unknown and some people get them much more often then others. You say you don't get a bleed with a 500+ damage T21, others can do it with a 400 damage. Currently the reason for the bleed is unknown. Our old theory was that it was based on wound chance - but that did not pan out as we tried 90%+ wound chance weapons and that sometimes caused the bleed and other times did not. Lower damage weapons were tried.. they sometimes caused bleeds other times not. Power ups... same result. One method that held some promise was /fire /peace loop... this at least reset the miss counter so they did not random aggro from 2-3 misses.
PsychoticChipmunk
Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:44 am
#6
It might also be player species related. I am always the first guy to get the aggro because I'm a Bothan in just about every situation. (despite +15 to camoflauge innate ability) The reasoning behind some of this game's quirks just don't make any sense so there really isn't an answer over the bleed thing. Just shoot and hope basically. And be happy concealshot actually conceals you now
manve
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:34 am
#7
so will this work well?
/concealshot;
/concealshot;
/peace;
/pause 1;
/macro conceal;
??????
Ackehece
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:38 am
#8
manve wrote:
so will this work well?
/concealshot;
/concealshot;
/peace;
/pause 1;
/macro conceal;
??????
This may clear some of the misses that might cause aggro but it does not necessarily work and it is unlikely to have any effect on the random bleed.
(loves all the disclaimers in that statement)
manve
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:47 am
#9
hehe ok cool i didnt een know why sometimes krayts aggro me and sumtiems not lol
Black-Sun
Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:13 pm
#10
When conceal shotting an enemy while prone using a gun that is under 400max damage you will NEVER cause a bleed.
Ive tested this over30 times hunting NS elders and other variuos NPC's.
Just some knoledge i wanted to share that not many people know about these days. 
agent156
Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:55 am
#11
Ya not to burst you bubble dude but I got half way throught the tree with conceal shot and have never had it cause a bleed for me. Many guns, many animals. Its some kinda wierd random thing.
DarthDrool
Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:32 pm
#12
egbertvanloenen wrote:
with a 500+ max T-21(had a nice dmg slice), i've NEVER caused a bleed without using ms1 or 2.
and i've tried it on the NS rangers in front of the Elder/spellweavers in Ns forced labour cave(about 30 concealshots and they drop) wasn't aggro-ed during all 4.
I thought spellweavers had 100% resists to energy damage? If so I doubt you dropped one with a T21.
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