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Thread: @ correspondent: 8 rifles with energy damage none with kinetic ?!!

Dajaan
Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:39 am
#1

i don't have the impression that our correspondent cares about our profession pretty much! especially considering the tusken rifle nerf! why would u let the DEVs take our only kinetic dmg dealingrifle away from us?!


we can not do anything against a mob, such as eg. a nightsister stalker, who has 100% resistances on all damage types except blast and kinetic - the tusken rifle was a vital tool to deal with such mobs, and it was taken away from us. great...


give us a decent kinetic rifle, or even better one doing blast dmg!


i would really hate, to have to skill TKA !



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Darth_Llama
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:06 am
#2






Dajaan wrote:

i don't have the impression that our correspondent cares about our profession pretty much! especially considering the tusken rifle nerf! why would u let the DEVs take our only kinetic dmg dealingrifle away from us?!







The Tusken was nerfedlong before the correspondent system was put into place. Do not blame that nerf on klawlegna.







Dajaan wrote:


give us a decent kinetic rifle, or even better one doing blast dmg!




Even better, we should make them give us one rifle that does all damage types at the same time!




yay!
Waste93
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:07 am
#3

I don't think our correspondent could have stopped them. Unless the Tusken was changed recently, then it has been energy for at least six months. Longer than our present correspondent has held his position.


If I remember correctly a Dev said that they only wanted melee weapons to do kinetic. Yet NPC Tuskens with rifles do kinetic while our Tusken rifles and those we loot are energy.


Also the Beserker rifle states it's a slug thrower yet it does heat damage and the Nym Carbine states it's a slug thrower yet it does acid (if I remember correctly).


We can hope that when they revamp the weapons as part of the combat rebalance they fix this. All slug throwers should do the same damage type. PC and NPC slugthrowers.





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Dajaan
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:15 am
#4

oh well maybe it's just my bad, but i could swear those tusken rifles read "kinetic" at the type cat. well however, there are pistol's doing kinetic or blast damage, so why couldn't we get some rifles?


nevertheless, i wanted to point out, that 8 differnt rifles all dealing the same sort of damage are nonsene - esp. considering the t21 also bringing some heavy armor piercing to the punch


so what i would really love to hear is a statment of our correspondent, saying he will get the devs to change some of the rifles asap - and altering one single value in a database can't be that much of a problem...




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BlasterForHire
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:35 am
#5

we already get more damage types than most classes. c'mon, people.. you can't have it all.
Waste93
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:37 am
#6






Dajaan wrote:

oh well maybe it's just my bad, but i could swear those tusken rifles read "kinetic" at the type cat. well however, there are pistol's doing kinetic or blast damage, so why couldn't we get some rifles?


nevertheless, i wanted to point out, that 8 differnt rifles all dealing the same sort of damage are nonsene - esp. considering the t21 also bringing some heavy armor piercing to the punch


so what i would really love to hear is a statment of our correspondent, saying he will get the devs to change some of the rifles asap - and altering one single value in a database can't be that much of a problem...







As has already been stated. A correspondent can't make the Devs change anything. He can suggest it and I believe he has. Fixing the damage type for the Tusken and Spraystick were both on our original top 5 issues list.


But more than likely when this is brought up we hear the usual comment from the Devs, "Wait for the combat rebalance". That was their standard answer to all our issues.


I agree it wouldn't take much for them to change it. My biggest problem with it is the continuity issue. Tusken using the rifle does Kinetic. I kill and loot a rifle from them it is now Energy? Do PC's have some magical ability to change the ammo from bullets to energy that we don't know about?


Though I think part of it is an effort to leave something unique for the melee professions. In a way similar to our targeting Mind. We and a few others can target mind, we also have an AP3 weapon. It's part of what makes us us. I think the Devs decided a similar thing for melee with kinetic damage. I have no problem with that as long as the changed the NPC kinetic damage weapons to be the same as the PC versions.



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XaverriJade7
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:42 am
#7


Dajaan wrote:

so what i would really love to hear is a statment of our correspondent, saying he will get the devs to change some of the rifles asap - and altering one single value in a database can't be that much of a problem...






It probably isn't much of a problem, but don't bust klaw's chops about it. He does plenty good enough as our correspondent. If you haven't noticed, we ARE FotM right now and I for one would like to see that change before we get any more goodies. Aldeon and klawlegna didn't work so hard just so that we could get nerfed to oblivion when literally EVERYONE plays Riflemen after we get Kinetic damage back...

Be patient. Things will work out.





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Tsimhnori
Wed Apr 21, 2004 7:54 am
#8

the kinetic pistols... suck, that is why the Devs are letting them have kinetic pistols... and the blast pistol is for commandos, though... they aren't really the best pistol in the world, and they are ap0.



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klawlegna
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:09 am
#9






Dajaan wrote:

i don't have the impression that our correspondent cares about our profession pretty much! especially considering the tusken rifle nerf! why would u let the DEVs take our only kinetic dmg dealingrifle away from us?!


we can not do anything against a mob, such as eg. a nightsister stalker, who has 100% resistances on all damage types except blast and kinetic - the tusken rifle was a vital tool to deal with such mobs, and it was taken away from us. great...


give us a decent kinetic rifle, or even better one doing blast dmg!


i would really hate, to have to skill TKA !






I've expressed to the development team the thoughts of the community regarding Kinetic damage. The development team as I've stated before as informed me that they will review all damage types with the upcoming weapon balance. Till then we must be pateint and rely on our new heat and acid rifle.



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Dynastar
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:11 am
#10

Sure, its silly that the Tusken Rifle is energy, but we need a kinetic rifle like we need a 3 second speed cap.


If you can't kill something with all the damage types we have, just **edit**ing move on and find something else.



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Barb-Wire
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:20 am
#11

the tusken rifle was kinetic for about a month and a half the e-11 was heat and the T21 was blast. the devs changed it all around a looooong time ago in a swg far far away.



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JediZork
Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:12 am
#12






Dajaan wrote:

i don't have the impression that our correspondent cares about our profession pretty much! especially considering the tusken rifle nerf! why would u let the DEVs take our only kinetic dmg dealingrifle away from us?!


we can not do anything against a mob, such as eg. a nightsister stalker, who has 100% resistances on all damage types except blast and kinetic - the tusken rifle was a vital tool to deal with such mobs, and it was taken away from us. great...


give us a decent kinetic rifle, or even better one doing blast dmg!


i would really hate, to have to skill TKA !







The fact that there's no Kinetic rifle means the correspondant doesn't care? The guy has no real influence over the Devs as I understand it. His job is to communicate with the Devs and us to keep both parties informed about one another and what's going on in the game.


I have never seen a Kinetic Tusken Rifle. I agree that it should be Kinetic. However, you know what I do when I see something I can't damage? I move on. I have no delusions that I'll be able to anihlate everything in this game with my rifles. I like that some things require alternate build choices or *gasp* an actual party of players.


I may be mistaken here, but wasn't the Tusken swapped over to Energy in late Beta or very soon after release? How exactly is that the curreng correspondent's fault? Again, his job isn't to make things happen, his job isn't to please any single one of us, his job is to facilitate communication. A job like that is best done via clear and polite discourse, not threats and unfounded complaints.


Food for thought.



JZ

JagerNacht
Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:26 am
#13

Klaw, don't even bother responding to this blather...If he had been around long enough, or even had the patience to do a forum search, he would have found that this is an age old argument and that you are doing your best for us.




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