Rifleman Archive
Thread: I heard it from...
HornedSandRanger wrote:
Friends on test center....
Combat revamp.
Supposedly rifleman will only be able to use Mindshot while kneeling and aiming. you get 3 shots then u must aim again. Haven't heard if it affects HS3 but it's probably safe to assume it would. Thoughts? Comments? I personally am a little upset. I like rifleman the way it is with the exception it's not the greatest stand alone pvp combat prof. So why nerf MS and HS? Hmm... a little upsetting indeed.
Combat revamp or upgrade or whatever they want to call it is gonna change alot of things to normal professions.
With any change tactics are gonna have to change as welll.
I view rifleman IMO as being a High damage output at a High cost of mobility. Curretnly this is not the case from my experiences. You can look at Mindshot and Headshot to be precision hits which requireyou to aim.
I would definitely agree with the highlighted part. Head shots should be more precise and not "on the fly" attacks. As far as mobility, the only time a Rifleman realistically is firing while movingis when he/she is using a suppression technique. Therefore Strafeshot, warning shot, etc. should be the only attacks we should use with any great effectiveness on the move. Given the speed of modern assault rifles, I can't see them nerfing our speed.
Ialwysdie wrote:
I view rifleman IMO as being a High damage output at a High cost of mobility. Curretnly this is not the case from my experiences. You can look at Mindshot and Headshot to be precision hits which requireyou to aim.
If Rifleman are to lose their mobility then they should get a range benefit to compensate.
HornedSandRanger wrote:
Friends on test center....
Combat revamp.
Supposedly rifleman will only be able to use Mindshot while kneeling and aiming. you get 3 shots then u must aim again. Haven't heard if it affects HS3 but it's probably safe to assume it would. Thoughts? Comments? I personally am a little upset. I like rifleman the way it is with the exception it's not the greatest stand alone pvp combat prof. So why nerf MS and HS? Hmm... a little upsetting indeed.
The CU/R/B Sandbox isn't even up yet. Let alone having it go to TC. So I'll repeat an earlier quote.
' I have no doubts you will be seeing all kinds of rumor posts soon in regards to the Combat Upgrade. Please remember that these will be just that, rumors. Some may be accurate while others will be wildly inaccurate. This is Alpha testing. There will be a number of things that happen there that may not work and will change. So even an accurate rumor may no longer be accurate a couple days later. '
Waste93 wrote:
The CU/R/B Sandbox isn't even up yet. Let alone having it go to TC. So I'll repeat an earlier quote.
' I have no doubts you will be seeing all kinds of rumor posts soon in regards to the Combat Upgrade. Please remember that these will be just that, rumors. Some may be accurate while others will be wildly inaccurate. This is Alpha testing. There will be a number of things that happen there that may not work and will change. So even an accurate rumor may no longer be accurate a couple days later. '
1) there is NO combat upgrade/revamp/balance code on TC
2) there is nothing that specifically impacts rifle on TC, aside from some LOS code that the devs test from time to time
3) there are a LOT of CTD (crash to desktop) issues on TC that have to be sorted out before ANY of the code is pushed to Live
so... you're safe, you're misinformed, and TC is still chugging along.
if Waste says that the combat upgrade/revamp/balance is still in the theory stages, then he's not lying. rumors will fly, but let's shoot them down as quickly as we can.
Ackehece wrote:
currently it is best to disregard any rumors about the CU/R/B until at least closed beta starts as they are still working on what and how they will implement ideas. The Sandbox is not up yet so even if people think they know something they have no concrete evidence that this is true or will even stay the same.
btw if your friend was telling you about stuff in the CU/R/B then he was violating a NDA and could very well be kicked out of the CU/R/B and the game entirely and also face court in a lawsuit.... So it is best to tell him to shut up for now (at least until the NDA is lifted)
sorry doll... didn't mean to upset anyone... was just looking for mature comments (not saying anyone's was immature) and ideas. Say it did happen this way. Would you still be rifleman (or riflewoman)? What different tactics would you use when hunting? Would you use different tactics. I think it would be cool cuz it would force us to, dare i say it, rp a little more as our character. I mean how cool would it be to see someone laying down....patiently waiting.... and then BAM!!!! dead animal 60m away. The sniper would truly be born.... again I'm sorry if I opened pandora's box.
HornedSandRanger wrote:
Ackehece wrote:
currently it is best to disregard any rumors about the CU/R/B until at least closed beta starts as they are still working on what and how they will implement ideas. The Sandbox is not up yet so even if people think they know something they have no concrete evidence that this is true or will even stay the same.
btw if your friend was telling you about stuff in the CU/R/B then he was violating a NDA and could very well be kicked out of the CU/R/B and the game entirely and also face court in a lawsuit.... So it is best to tell him to shut up for now (at least until the NDA is lifted)
sorry doll... didn't mean to upset anyone... was just looking for mature comments (not saying anyone's was immature) and ideas. Say it did happen this way. Would you still be rifleman (or riflewoman)? What different tactics would you use when hunting? Would you use different tactics. I think it would be cool cuz it would force us to, dare i say it, rp a little more as our character. I mean how cool would it be to see someone laying down....patiently waiting.... and then BAM!!!! dead animal 60m away. The sniper would truly be born.... again I'm sorry if I opened pandora's box.
I would still be a Rifleman, regardless. However, let's say, hypothetically, they implemented this. Using your scenario of a Rifleman laying in wait, patiently, ala Vasili Zaitsev or Carlos Hathcock. I would be glad to do this. . .but not at a maximum range of 64 meters. If they want us to truly be snipers then they would need to increase our maximum effective range.
DarthMarksman wrote:
HornedSandRanger wrote:
Ackehece wrote:currently it is best to disregard any rumors about the CU/R/B until at least closed beta starts as they are still working on what and how they will implement ideas. The Sandbox is not up yet so even if people think they know something they have no concrete evidence that this is true or will even stay the same.btw if your friend was telling you about stuff in the CU/R/B then he was violating a NDA and could very well be kicked out of the CU/R/B and the game entirely and also face court in a lawsuit.... So it is best to tell him to shut up for now (at least until the NDA is lifted)
sorry doll... didn't mean to upset anyone... was just looking for mature comments (not saying anyone's was immature) and ideas. Say it did happen this way. Would you still be rifleman (or riflewoman)? What different tactics would you use when hunting? Would you use different tactics. I think it would be cool cuz it would force us to, dare i say it, rp a little more as our character. I mean how cool would it be to see someone laying down....patiently waiting.... and then BAM!!!! dead animal 60m away. The sniper would truly be born.... again I'm sorry if I opened pandora's box.
I would still be a Rifleman, regardless. However, let's say, hypothetically, they implemented this. Using your scenario of a Rifleman laying in wait, patiently, ala Vasili Zaitsev or Carlos Hathcock. I would be glad to do this. . .but not at a maximum range of 64 meters. If they want us to truly be snipers then they would need to increase our maximum effective range.
and one-shot kills are NOT going to make anyone happy, from a balance perspective.
My current template does not have this ability. It requires you to have some of the marksman support line. Unless they change this you will gate folks like Rangers who do not have a lot of skill points to throw around.
HornedSandRanger wrote:
Friends on test center....
Combat revamp.
Supposedly rifleman will only be able to use Mindshot while kneeling and aiming. you get 3 shots then u must aim again. Haven't heard if it affects HS3 but it's probably safe to assume it would. Thoughts? Comments? I personally am a little upset. I like rifleman the way it is with the exception it's not the greatest stand alone pvp combat prof. So why nerf MS and HS? Hmm... a little upsetting indeed.