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Thread: Exceptional bowcaster turned into an even more worthless piece of garbage!!
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Kregi
Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:01 pm
#1
My exceptional bowcaster 1055min1977max poweredup tunred out 47-94 damage post CU. Please do not allow the devs to do this. At least they could make all current bowcasters into assault bowcasters like they did with all current laser rifles being made into advanced lasers post cu.
Mapiasal
Mapiasal
Grambacca
Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:16 pm
#3
Yep it sucks big time.
While my Bowcaster is not exceptional and half the damage stats of yours I still put a lot of creds into it and it is now a worthless novice weapon after the CU.
I agree. Please at least look at what the weapon stats are currently and make the higher level ones Assault Bowcasters!
Ackehece
Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:22 pm
#4
Off to tell the devs about this again...
(if they do move it likely would be to a mid ranged bowcaster not the assault (and I can not promise even that))
Brutus_Krylop
Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:24 pm
#5
Welcome to the inherent problems in tying weapons to character level.
Bad devs! Bad! Bad!
Kiryoku
Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:53 pm
#6
thanks ackehece for fighting for us... i still don't understand their reasoning on this issue...
by all rights, bowcasters should translate to the higher CL weapon... just like everything else that has new models...
even then, this exceptional 'caster will be what might be considered "nerfed"... but it will still be usable, and the best bowcaster it can be...
Cpl_Fisher
Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:30 pm
#7
They may be doing this because bowcasters currently qre the only weapons that use both projectile feed mewchs and power handlers....
Kregi
Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:07 pm
#8
And my newly cratfed light bowcaster has a max damage of 97!!!
Say goodbye to weaponsmith as we currently know it. All weapons now have a max damage which you cannot surpass and a min speed which will not go lower. Even slicing them will not make a difference if they are maxed on either stat.
Mapiasal
Say goodbye to weaponsmith as we currently know it. All weapons now have a max damage which you cannot surpass and a min speed which will not go lower. Even slicing them will not make a difference if they are maxed on either stat.
Mapiasal
Jolandir
Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:12 pm
#9
There are three bowcasters in CU, the Advanced which yours would fit into on and average does nearly 900 damage, since it is exceptional it will be higher then this, but no one knows what the final stats will be. So those states are for the basic bowcaster and they are even higher then that. The conversion has not been worked into the TC servers yet, so no valid conversion can be done yet. So don't get upset about things none of know about yet, wait until they get to point where they are actually trying the conversions with serious stat adjustment.
Jolandir
SickSix
Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:32 pm
#10
if my DXR6 turns into base level crafted crap, i'm gonna be pretty mad, along with alot of folks here. this whole level tied to CL is pretty dumb. my template gives me a CL of 80, and i only have one core Combat mastery 
but i'll be able to use almost any weapon
but i'll be able to use almost any weapon
Gaffacas
Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:17 am
#11
Lets hope the Devs see the fairness in chaging exceptional Bowcasters into Assault Bowcasters !!!
go3
Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:39 pm
#12
Anyone thrown a pre-nerf T21 into the transmorgrifier yet? I'm kinda scared what it will do with the 8.5sec+ speeds they generally have.
CorenLanra
Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:54 am
#13
Reposted from the conversion thread.....
Items were on the floor or walls of my buildings. near 275 -5959 Coronet on Corellia
Char Name: Stettin Palver
Galaxy: Chilastra
Planet: Corellia
Final stats
T21 Rifle v1.8.6 (approx 533max before conversion 7.4 speed) (in my main shop in the back room on the floor)
Converted to....
3.0 531-1031 0-65m range 104 special cost (originally it was about 110 mind cost)
T21 Rifle (Exceptional pre-cov 3.6 spd 392-1354 dmg) (In the house labeled "Lonelan's house" behind my shop)
Converted to....
2.86 567-1133 0-65m range 104 special cost (originaly it was about 64 mind cost)
This takes a weapon that was 3x greater dmg almost to just about 100 more dmg (less than 10% greater) than the other model. I hardly think that is fair. I bet that I can craft a krayt t21 that will beat my almost 1400 dmg pre-cu T21 that will beat it. That just isn't right.
Well folks I just crafted two Krayt T21's, one with "converted" ABPH/Barrel and another with newly crafted parts..
T21 #1
ABPH 23-53 -2.0 spd (This is from a 21-82 -.99 converted crate made using 40 dmg -.5 tissue)
Barrel 17-43 -.90 4 wound
NO STOCK
Final stats: 2.59 spd 470-991dmg 30.96% wound 119 Attack Cost
T21 #2
ABPH 19-102 -1.98spd (Made from unconverted 57dmg -.51 tissue)
Barrel 18-44 -1.06 5 Wound 7 Attack Cost
NO STOCK
Final Stats: 2.58 spd 467-1041dmg 32.16% Wound 132 Attack Cost)
These stats are unsliced now....
In short exceptional weapons are given the shaft.. I had a 650dmg 1.1 spd Republic Blaster (Exceptional) and it converted to around 850 dmg, a Krayt Republic I crafted on the CU day for Chilly had about same speed and 750 dmg..
Items were on the floor or walls of my buildings. near 275 -5959 Coronet on Corellia
Char Name: Stettin Palver
Galaxy: Chilastra
Planet: Corellia
Final stats
T21 Rifle v1.8.6 (approx 533max before conversion 7.4 speed) (in my main shop in the back room on the floor)
Converted to....
3.0 531-1031 0-65m range 104 special cost (originally it was about 110 mind cost)
T21 Rifle (Exceptional pre-cov 3.6 spd 392-1354 dmg) (In the house labeled "Lonelan's house" behind my shop)
Converted to....
2.86 567-1133 0-65m range 104 special cost (originaly it was about 64 mind cost)
This takes a weapon that was 3x greater dmg almost to just about 100 more dmg (less than 10% greater) than the other model. I hardly think that is fair. I bet that I can craft a krayt t21 that will beat my almost 1400 dmg pre-cu T21 that will beat it. That just isn't right.
Well folks I just crafted two Krayt T21's, one with "converted" ABPH/Barrel and another with newly crafted parts..
T21 #1
ABPH 23-53 -2.0 spd (This is from a 21-82 -.99 converted crate made using 40 dmg -.5 tissue)
Barrel 17-43 -.90 4 wound
NO STOCK
Final stats: 2.59 spd 470-991dmg 30.96% wound 119 Attack Cost
T21 #2
ABPH 19-102 -1.98spd (Made from unconverted 57dmg -.51 tissue)
Barrel 18-44 -1.06 5 Wound 7 Attack Cost
NO STOCK
Final Stats: 2.58 spd 467-1041dmg 32.16% Wound 132 Attack Cost)
These stats are unsliced now....
In short exceptional weapons are given the shaft.. I had a 650dmg 1.1 spd Republic Blaster (Exceptional) and it converted to around 850 dmg, a Krayt Republic I crafted on the CU day for Chilly had about same speed and 750 dmg..
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