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Thread: can rifleman dev provide a breakdown of shots?

dahrocker
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:41 pm
#1

Is it possible to wrangle out better descriptions
of what all the rifleshots are suppose to do?

I'm confused as to shots like

surpriseshot: surprises the enemy. (are we giving him a party?)
startle and flushing both seem to stun and raise position.

-Rocker



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AldeonAvardulin
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:59 pm
#2

Suprise Shot is used in cover, and when used the enemy doesnt react. (charge you) until you miss.


Flushing Shot 2 is AE, and stuns and raises posture.


Startle Shot 2 is AE, and raises posture (worthless as above does the same thing)


The 1's are single target.




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JamgaGibbrad
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:02 pm
#3

AldeonAvardulin said:


"Suprise Shot is used in cover, and when used the enemy doesnt react. (charge you) until you miss. "

I thought Conceal shot did this? If not, what does conceal shot do? If so, how are the two different?


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AldeonAvardulin
Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:13 pm
#4

They are both the same, conceal shot however can be done out of cover. Were suprise shot is used in cover, suprise shot is currently not working correctly. The only style your supposed to be able to use is in cover, is suprise shot.



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Dussel
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:42 pm
#5

flushing2 and startle2 have the same or different damage multipliers?


by the way, where can i find a complete table of the damage and delay multipliers for the rifleman's specials? thanks




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InimicalDE
Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:51 pm
#6

Ooooh! That would be priceless. The one in the Prima strategy guide is highly suspect since the book was written and based on Beta info and entire classes have been rewritten since then and is in no danger of becoming stable any time soon.




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AldeonAvardulin
Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:25 pm
#7

Both are 4.0x, Ill make a list tommorow or wensday. Not sure on the lwoer level ones and suprsie shot though.



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Issik
Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:27 pm
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AldeonAvardulin wrote:
Both are 4.0x, Ill make a list tommorow or wensday. Not sure on the lwoer level ones and suprsie shot though.





From what I've read, the multiplier is 3x on surpirse shot.


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Seflyn
Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:23 am
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Most of these numbers are thanks to Flyojumper, with a few taken from other palces and a couple done myself, formatting and status changes by "WayneInAustin" on the rifleman forum.


DISCLAIMER: The following info was culled from miscellaneous posts in this forum. I make NO STATEMENT as to their accuracy. If anyone has more accurate info, please respond here and I will update my information.


Regular Auto-Attacks do 1.5 times the base damage stats on the weapon (so a 60-100 would do 90-150 auto attacks). The following damage and time multipliers are relative to auto attacks damage and time (x1.0 being an auto attack).


Rifles:
Head Shot1 ........... Damage x1.5 ........ Time x1.5
Head Shot2 ........... Damage x2.5 ........ Time x1.75
Head Shot3 ........... Damage x3.0 ........ Time x2.0
Mind Shot1 ............ Damage x1.5 ........ Time x1.8 - Bleed attack
Mind Shot2 ............ Damage x2.0 ........ Time x2.0 - Bleed attack
Conceal Shot ......... Damage x2.5 ........ Time x3.0
Surprise Shot......... Damage x3.0 ........ Time x?.? -
Flushing Shot1 ...... Damage x2.0 ........ Time x2.1 -
Flushing Shot2 ...... Damage x4.0 ........ Time x?.? - AE damage + raises posture + stun
Flurry Shot1 .......... Damage x2.5 ........ Time x2.0 - Dizzy
Flurry Shot2 .......... Damage x4.0 ........ Time x?.? - AE damage + dizzy
Startle Shot1 ......... Damage x2.0 ........ Time x2.1
Startle Shot2 ......... Damage x4.0 ........ Time x?.? - AE damage + raises posture
Strafe Shot1 .......... Damage x2.0 ........ Time x2.0
Strafe Shot2 .......... Damage x5.0 ........ Time x?.? - AE damage + Clears cover




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dahrocker
Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:24 pm
#10



AldeonAvardulin wrote:

Suprise Shot is used in cover, and when used the enemy doesnt react. (charge you) until you miss.

Flushing Shot 2 is AE, and stuns and raises posture.

Startle Shot 2 is AE, and raises posture (worthless as above does the same thing)

The 1's are single target.








I will double check what I'm seeing when I get on tonite, but Im sure I've seen
both position raising commands I have on hot key, produce a stun effect.

Pulling together a list would be great, especially if we can get the dev to verify it,.
Maybe there are effects we're not seeing, or stuff that is suppose to be working
but isnt.

Thanks for checking into it!

Rocker



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corintintin
Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:35 am
#11

Thanks for posting that Seflyn.
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