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Thread: Just did some testing with Jawa and Dxr6b

Jmkar
Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:21 pm
#1

Jawa = 456
Dxr6b = 781

The 2 helmets in test were 4%stun/90% base and 30%stun/85% base. PSG with 60% stun resist(vuln to acid).


Jawa > dxr6b in both scenarioes with PSG/Helmet equipped.



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HanzoRegana
Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:49 pm
#2

Jawa looks like a trumpet, although they can be quite effective. The DXR-6b is still PvE king.




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Ackehece
Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:32 pm
#3






Jmkar wrote:
Jawa = 456
Dxr6b = 781

The 2 helmets in test were 4%stun/90% base and 30%stun/85% base. PSG with 60% stun resist(vuln to acid).


Jawa > dxr6b in both scenarioes with PSG/Helmet equipped.






30% stun armor is pretty lax 40% is more likely on the field now on most servers


Was the target dodging or counterattacking. DPS changes substantially in favor of the dxr6b if the target is dodging or counterattacking.




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Jmkar
Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:36 pm
#4


Ackehece wrote:


Jmkar wrote:
Jawa = 456
Dxr6b = 781

The 2 helmets in test were 4%stun/90% base and 30%stun/85% base. PSG with 60% stun resist(vuln to acid).


Jawa > dxr6b in both scenarioes with PSG/Helmet equipped.


30% stun armor is pretty lax 40% is more likely on the field now on most servers

Was the target dodging or counterattacking. DPS changes substantially in favor of the dxr6b if the target is dodging or counterattacking.






40%stun/90%base armor is hard to get after 30 4 piece suits sliced I only have 30%/85% helmet, nothing over that in 40%stun. But even with a 41% stun helmet jawa did more DPS then the dxr6b, and I am talking about direct hits, not counter/blocks. This was on a swordsman though, but still it should work either way. If I do more dmg with the jawa then the dxr6b in PvP(hit more in upclose range btw because of its pb range mod of 0 and 132 ideal range) against a swordsman it would do more against a tkm or a rifleman or doctor.

Message Edited by Jmkar on 02-20-2005 06:36 PM



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Ackehece
Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:41 pm
#5






Jmkar wrote:




Ackehece wrote:





Jmkar wrote:
Jawa = 456
Dxr6b = 781

The 2 helmets in test were 4%stun/90% base and 30%stun/85% base. PSG with 60% stun resist(vuln to acid).


Jawa > dxr6b in both scenarioes with PSG/Helmet equipped.






30% stun armor is pretty lax 40% is more likely on the field now on most servers


Was the target dodging or counterattacking. DPS changes substantially in favor of the dxr6b if the target is dodging or counterattacking.








40%stun/90%base armor is hard to get after 30 4 piece suits sliced I only have 30%/85% helmet, nothing over that in 40%stun. But even with a 41% stun helmet jawa did more DPS then the dxr6b, and I am talking about direct hits, not counter/blocks. This was on a swordsman though, but still it should work either way. If I do more dmg with the jawa then the dxr6b in PvP(hit more in upclose range btw because of its pb range mod of 0 and 132 ideal range) against a swordsman it would do more against a tkm or a rifleman or doctor.

Message Edited by Jmkar on 02-20-2005 06:36 PM






Essentially you just made my arguement. The jawa is not the all around winner in pvp anymore it just is a good weapon. The dxr6b is just as effective inlots ofcases and more so in a few cases now. In other cases the Jawa is better but those cases are just as rare. The Jawa and the DXR6 should be in most peoples arsenal for pvp now as one or the other is not the best in all situations.





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Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
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grifta
Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:08 pm
#6



Ackehece wrote:


Jmkar wrote:

Ackehece wrote:


Jmkar wrote:
Jawa = 456
Dxr6b = 781

The 2 helmets in test were 4%stun/90% base and 30%stun/85% base. PSG with 60% stun resist(vuln to acid).


Jawa > dxr6b in both scenarioes with PSG/Helmet equipped.


30% stun armor is pretty lax 40% is more likely on the field now on most servers

Was the target dodging or counterattacking. DPS changes substantially in favor of the dxr6b if the target is dodging or counterattacking.






40%stun/90%base armor is hard to get after 30 4 piece suits sliced I only have 30%/85% helmet, nothing over that in 40%stun. But even with a 41% stun helmet jawa did more DPS then the dxr6b, and I am talking about direct hits, not counter/blocks. This was on a swordsman though, but still it should work either way. If I do more dmg with the jawa then the dxr6b in PvP(hit more in upclose range btw because of its pb range mod of 0 and 132 ideal range) against a swordsman it would do more against a tkm or a rifleman or doctor.

Message Edited by Jmkar on 02-20-2005 06:36 PM



Essentially you just made my arguement. The jawa is not the all around winner in pvp anymore it just is a good weapon. The dxr6b is just as effective in lots of cases and more so in a few cases now. In other cases the Jawa is better but those cases are just as rare. The Jawa and the DXR6 should be in most peoples arsenal for pvp now as one or the other is not the best in all situations.






My point in the post was that against the BEST protection ones DPS is higher with a jawa that has 300 less dmg then a dxr6. Now be it, that if your jawa is 600 or your dxr6 is 1000... it will change drastically there. But in MOST cases with standard krayted weapons such as these the jawa dps was higher then a dxr6. So in PvP against well prepared and armored foes, the Jawa is still in the lead for the best standard crafted weapon with our specials. Now be it the dxr6 kills a jedi at 35-50m and the Jawa will not, I am talking regular PvP here =)



HanzoRegana
Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:28 pm
#7

When I PvP I rush in with 40% Helmet, Chest, Gloves, boots, 60% PSG and synthsteak. When I get hit by a Jawa, I dont get scratched, while I shoot at him with my DXR-6b I see his mind bar dropping drastically whilst mine stays in the same place. My point is people are wearing so much stun nowadays its not worth what it used to be.




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grifta
Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:30 am
#8



HanzoRegana wrote:
When I PvP I rush in with 40% Helmet, Chest, Gloves, boots, 60% PSG and synthsteak. When I get hit by a Jawa, I dont get scratched, while I shoot at him with my DXR-6b I see his mind bar dropping drastically whilst mine stays in the same place. My point is people are wearing so much stun nowadays its not worth what it used to be.





Totally agree with you, but a guy with 90% helmet and steak you aren't doing any dmg.



Ackehece
Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:51 am
#9






grifta wrote:





HanzoRegana wrote:

When I PvP I rush in with 40% Helmet, Chest, Gloves, boots, 60% PSG and synthsteak. When I get hit by a Jawa, I dont get scratched, while I shoot at him with my DXR-6b I see his mind bar dropping drastically whilst mine stays in the same place. My point is people are wearing so much stun nowadays its not worth what it used to be.







Totally agree with you, but a guy with 90% helmet and steak you aren't doing any dmg.





steak runs out fast when you are hitting every sec... (is why you open up with area attacks on pvp groups)... drain the lot of their steak fast. Use you AOE's to destroy the steak and get those states on them. 5 rifleman using aoe's can drain a group of their steak in about 5-10 secs....



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Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise"
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HanzoRegana
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:16 am
#10

Personally I think the Jawa looks like a rusty trumpet, Rifleman is about style to me just as much as efficiency, and the DXR-6b is nice sounding,nice looking and has anice enough name.




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RebRifle
Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:04 pm
#11

your forgetting an important stat. Accuracy with all the stackers jawa won't land a hit.
HanzoRegana
Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:58 pm
#12

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Aetari
Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:31 pm
#13

I noticed the difficulty in landing the last hit on a stacker also, however, I do not find the DXR to be any better at this. Consider the scenario. You have to close to 30M or less to throw your poison, at which point you are rooted in place for 4 seconds. The stacker will undoubtedly close that distance before you can move again. If you want to stack another poison its ANOTHER 4 seconds. By this time you are dizzy so burst run is out of the equasion until you recover. So, you are now engaged at 0M which gives the Jawa the advantage. Correct me if I am wrong.



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