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Thread: Q-3PO : Regarding the T21 Rifle changes aka NERF

Snagger
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:09 am
#1

Regarding the recent nerf of the T21 rifle:



First, by speeding up the weapon and lowering damage, the HAM costs become suicidal.


Second, "easier to use" - this is by far a pathetic excuse for nerfing the truly useful aspects of the T21 (high damage and high armor piercing) with the tradeoff of being the slowest weapon in the game. Every rifleman I know would rather havethe T21 aslow weapon that hits hard. I have never heard of a rifleman complaining that the T21 is not "easy enough to use".


Third, the fact that "mind damage can't be healed" is offset by the fact that a rifleman takes THREE times normal damage from melee attacks (the ONLY skill that has this HUGE penalty). And just so you know I have never seen a mob heal its health or action bar EVER, so the "mind damage can't be healed" argument is absolutely not applicable to non-pvp.


Suggestion:


Keep the old/pre-nerf damage range and speed of the T21 and make it armor piercing level 2.


- OR -


Give the T21 a max damage range equal to that of a laser rifle but with a higher minimum damage (say 100 or so) and make it armor piercing level 3.



Thanks,


Snagger

ZamMeLon
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:14 am
#2

it is not like T21 are all over the place. majority of the servers to not even have them, let alone being able to "test" them.


oh wait all the testing can be done in less than 24hours.




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UltimateSithKnight
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:15 am
#3

^agree^



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deadjawas
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:17 am
#4

Last night there were 3 riflemen sitting outside the hill fort on my server mind shot spamming people and running away. 3 ticks and they were dead because the T-21 was so vastly overpowered.



If you think you deserve the ability to kill people in one shot, go play counterstrike.




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ZelerianIA
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:20 am
#5

I'm pretty sure BH and CH can kill peoples faster than a rifleman with an AP 3 T21.......do they need to play counterstrike also?




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Snagger
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:29 am
#6

deadjawas,


Anyone who only has a 400 or 500 mind and PvP's deserves to get one or two shotted.



Snagger

Tanker9
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:30 am
#7

deadjawas you moron. ANY BLEED is 1 shot and youll die if you dont do anything.



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Maximus_Bane
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:30 am
#8

Well. Lets see kill with one shot. hmm. Yup sounds like a sniper thing to me. Your go play counterstrike is way out of line. I was killed by a rebel pisoleer bounty hunter in three seconds of game time when i was at an imp mission terminal. KD all she wrote. I was done. Large blank space below is for where i was going to flame you














I'm sorry if you think we shouldn't be able to kill anyone in one shot and you should. Your right that's not fair, What was I thinking.



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ElectricBlue17
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:32 am
#9

amen to that ^^


but please don't migrate stats i love people who have 400-500 mind it makes me feel like riflemen are actually useful





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Dyasis
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:57 am
#10

Deadjawas, why don't you read this post and tell me who hs a oneshot kill in this game.. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=rifleman&message.id=7190



The T21 is our elite rifle. If the enemy has amor of 0, thats his fault not ours =) Or drop the Ap2 and lower the max dmgsome andraise the min damgage.

Waste93
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:50 am
#11

Ummm..... how did they make the T21 easier to use? Did they lower the cert or something? I really can't think of any way to make a weapon "easier to use". Unless they lowered the HAM costs. A better explanation should have been forthcoming.



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