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Thread: Improved Conceal shot... am I doing something wrong?

NeonCoyote
Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:23 pm
#1

I was wondering, I was a crafter who respeced into a master rifleman/master ranger.


When i use conceal shot, I am lucky to get maybe 2 shots off before the mob gets close enough to spot me.


I wear conceal bonus items as well but i think +10 is all I have.


Am I doing something wrong? Is there a trick i am missing?


Any info would be greatly appreciated (especially before respec runs out ;-)



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NeonCoyote
Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:57 pm
#2






NeonCoyote wrote:

I was wondering, I was a crafter who respeced into a master rifleman/master ranger.


When i use conceal shot, I am lucky to get maybe 2 shots off before the mob gets close enough to spot me.


I wear conceal bonus items as well but i think +10 is all I have.


Am I doing something wrong? Is there a trick i am missing?


Any info would be greatly appreciated (especially before respec runs out ;-)






Well I seem to be doing well running up throwing a dart, knee shotting runnin back 50 meeters and blasting away.


So I am gonna keep my Ranger/Rifleman templet, but I would love to know a way to sit and snipe with conceal shot... seems so useless in PVE


TY =)





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Cyrrex
Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:16 am
#3

If you start out at 65 meters, you should usually get in 3 shots, then cover will break, because the mob will advance on your location (about 10 to 15 meters per shot)...they don't sit there an stupidly accept the beating like they did pre-CU.


Of course, this can make quite a difference. If you do 3 of these (for around 1200 or 1300 damage each), then let loose with one Sniper Shot, then a KD(or root or snare, whatever ya got)...then you can stand up andkite for a few seconds, alternating your other power shots. You can probably kill any mob your level or lower before they even lay a hand on you. Perhaps not as fast due to the warmup timers, but you won't have the downtime this way (no need to heal, and action will not be drained so fast).



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KyeAshke
Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:33 am
#4

Or get the ranged arms. I can get 5 shot in at about 1500 each before they reach me - in fact some times they never do



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NeonCoyote
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:28 am
#5






KyeAshke wrote:
Or get the ranged arms. I can get 5 shot in at about 1500 each before they reach me - in fact some times they never do





Humm the ranged arms make that much diffrence?


I might have to do that, ty





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NeonCoyote
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:30 am
#6






Cyrrex wrote:

If you start out at 65 meters, you should usually get in 3 shots, then cover will break, because the mob will advance on your location (about 10 to 15 meters per shot)...they don't sit there an stupidly accept the beating like they did pre-CU.


Of course, this can make quite a difference. If you do 3 of these (for around 1200 or 1300 damage each), then let loose with one Sniper Shot, then a KD(or root or snare, whatever ya got)...then you can stand up andkite for a few seconds, alternating your other power shots. You can probably kill any mob your level or lower before they even lay a hand on you. Perhaps not as fast due to the warmup timers, but you won't have the downtime this way (no need to heal, and action will not be drained so fast).






I like stupid mobs ;-)


Seriously though ty for the tip. Do you know off hand if I say blast the critter with 2 Conceal shots and he hasnt spotted me... if i stand up and dont fire will he realize it's me?





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Cyrrex
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:18 am
#7

I haven't tested that myself, but I think I know what you are thinking....get up, go back to 65 meters again and repeat? I have thought about trying that too, but for mobs equal or lower in level it certainly isn't worth the time it would take (since they will be more than half dead before they reach you anyway). For harder mobs, they will probably regen too quick to make this effective.


My guess is that they will still have you on aggro, and once you blow your cover they will comeafter you...might be worth a try though.



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NeonCoyote
Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:50 am
#8






Cyrrex wrote:

I haven't tested that myself, but I think I know what you are thinking....get up, go back to 65 meters again and repeat? I have thought about trying that too, but for mobs equal or lower in level it certainly isn't worth the time it would take (since they will be more than half dead before they reach you anyway). For harder mobs, they will probably regen too quick to make this effective.


My guess is that they will still have you on aggro, and once you blow your cover they will comeafter you...might be worth a try though.





Actually I was thinkin more of the stand up casually throw a dart, knee shot run and finish em off, since it would be faster. If he doesnt argo though gives me time to make sure he wont get a hit in.



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Drakenya
Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:01 pm
#9



NeonCoyote wrote:


KyeAshke wrote:
Or get the ranged arms. I can get 5 shot in at about 1500 each before they reach me - in fact some times they never do


Humm the ranged arms make that much diffrence?

I might have to do that, ty






Yes, they actually do that much. I got +15m range from wearing 2 arms, and can get in between 5-7 shots before they discover me, then an aim, sniper, kip up, knockdown, crit/headshot spam and they usually fall before they touch me more than once or twice. Taken out plenty of lvl 84 mallocs using this method and haven't gotten below 75% health yet.




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NeonCoyote
Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:41 am
#10






Drakenya wrote:





NeonCoyote wrote:





KyeAshke wrote:
Or get the ranged arms. I can get 5 shot in at about 1500 each before they reach me - in fact some times they never do





Humm the ranged arms make that much diffrence?


I might have to do that, ty









Yes, they actually do that much. I got +15m range from wearing 2 arms, and can get in between 5-7 shots before they discover me, then an aim, sniper, kip up, knockdown, crit/headshot spam and they usually fall before they touch me more than once or twice. Taken out plenty of lvl 84 mallocs using this method and haven't gotten below 75% health yet.





Hay thanks much for the feedback and the list of attacks i will try it all like that. One more question, do you spam conceal shot or do you shoot wait a min then shoot again?



TY!





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