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Thread: Does the AP system even work right now? is my t21 worth using in PVE?

HuskyRebel
Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:10 pm
#1

and have the devs ever done anything for us except nerf our t21?



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Gazkan
Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:21 pm
#2

I've done several tests with conceal shot,and then checking the different ham bars on the mobs, and yes there is abonus on unarmored mobs, and. The numbers were all bang on the money as to what they were supposed to be. In PvP however there appears to be no bonus.
SocialConformer
Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:52 pm
#3

There should be a bonus if the target is wearing armor (or a helm specifically?)


As I understand it, AP bonusus do not apply when there is no armor and/or there is no listed resistance to that energy type.





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-Myrick-
Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:07 pm
#4

ap works fine in PvE



Myrick

Gazkan
Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:20 pm
#5

One of the mobs I was checking on was a vulnerabilitiy: energy pubam I saw standing alone on endor... there was definitely a 95.3% bonus on my shots (1.25x1.25x1.25), and I don't mean going by the overhead numbers... I checked the number in my chat box, then checked on the health action and mind of the mob, and totalled what the difference.... amounted to 95.3%.

Lord_Roma
Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:32 pm
#6

What are the stats on the T21 now? I remember my old one had a max damage of 430.
MuRa
Thu Sep 18, 2003 1:11 am
#7

1/0/0/1 Rifleman and I can 1 shot most white mobs with my post-nerf T21 and HS2. 350 max dmg on it and even though the dmg on the combat window shows one number, the number that pops above the mob's head is usually much greater, I believe that's due to the AP effect. I hit for over 1k with HS2 easily.



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dmized
Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:00 am
#8

I just got my T21. Its 119 - 385 unsliced. My laser was 26-417 ... I havent been to impressed w/ the T21 so far.


my question is... How come the numbers that appear over a mobs head are much higher than what shows in my combat screen. For instance many many times i get a 2k+ shot over the mobs head but when I look in my chat it showed it was 1500 ish. ( using mindshot 2 ) .


Also lastnight was my first real adventure into PVP, Why is it all my shot were more in the 200-400 range dmg using MindShot2 vs people? Dont get my wrong I had a blast as we raided Bestine I Incapped 12 imps by the end of the raid. But I dont think I saw a Mindshot over 500.


Tarawa


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Seflyn
Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:08 am
#9

All damage is reduced by 75% in PvP.


As for the numbers above the head, the numbers in your combat window are the ones before the targets AR, resists and the AP value of your gun are taken into account.


So as the T21 has a AP value of 3, you times the number in the combat window by 1.25 and then *3, this should be the number you see above the mobs head. (This is if you are fighting mobs with a AR of none).




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ParadigmaMike
Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:56 am
#10

Actually its 1.25 to the Power of 3 (1.25*1.25*1.25). I am mainly farming rebel npcs where AP doest seem to work. So i stick to my Dlt20a most of the time. On animals AP seems to work.



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Seflyn
Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:21 am
#11

Thanks for the correction ParadigmaMike, that's what I meant, I hate it when I miss stuff like that. Oh for an edit button.



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Aden_Nak
Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:31 am
#12

Yeah, in PvP the T-21 isn't worth using at all. My best recomendary for PvP is either (annoyingly) a DLT20a because it has a fast fire rate and low HAM costs (in exchange for the lack of Armor Piercing, which does not work) or the Jawa Ion Rifle, since it casts Stun Damage and that will rip through most armor (including the all-mighty Composite Armor).



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Seflyn
Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:36 am
#13

Laser rifle (sliced + powerup for max damage) is good against people wearing armour other than composite. In fact I find it easier to kill people wearing non composite armour than I do unarmoured people, which seems a bit odd to me.



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