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How many shots can a rifleman get off before the target noticies? Do you take like 3 shots then stand and take cover again?.....I'm using pets now, but am interested in going alone if I can get conceal shot to work for me.

Thanks

i used 16 conceal shots (on muon gold) to take out a graul mauler this weekend.

i've heard that 2 misses in a row, or 3 misses totalbreaks the effect, but can't verify.

be forewarned... this is a very slow shot, and is not high damage (2x multiplier, i think). also, you'll need some kind of buff to take out anything big with it. but it definitely does work.

I just got conceal shot last night. You can use it continuously until your mind is depleted. In some instances I was able to miss once without the target going agressive. In others one miss and I was running

My record is 5 shots(misses) when prone and concealed (ranger skill). I'd trust only 3 of them, however, for non-ranger.

miss twice and there is a good chance the creature will come after right then. sometimes it will wait till the third shot and give you a chance to peace. just keep track of your chance to hit and peace and adjust position as needed.

i dropped my stats to 400/500/400 400/500/400 800/1100/900 i dont run out of mind at all using conceal shot. HS3 takes about 15 to 20 shots to totally drain my mind bar and that is just an estimate as nothing i have used it on has taken it that far. i rely on doctor increases for the health and action altho it is not really needed for my style of rifle use. i get by with 400HA because anything that i cant kill in 2-3 shots will kill me in one hit regardless of whether i have 400 or 1100 health and action.

my favorite weapon is my T21 that has 70 mind use HS3 generates around 93 mind cost most of which regens before the next shot. flushing2 and conceal i can spam all day. when i get master tonite or tomorrow i am sure that i will change my style a bit to account for the increased speed.

Concealshot can theoritically take out anything in the game, but it is going to take a long time. Also if you get closer than 45-40m they will notice you, and if anyone or anything else attacks what you are concealshotting it will notice you.

On the misses, just make sure you peace after each miss and you should be ok.

Between Master Ranger and (soon to be) Master Rifleman, I can effectively hunt/snipe most critters, but it is a very slow process. I do wish surprise shot worked though, as it is similar to concealshot, but with a higher dmg multiplier.

I would not be surprised if concealshot gets nerfed at some point, but I am not sure how it can be nerfed without removing the shot itself.

there really isnt a reason to nerf it. it isnt like conceal is an uber attack and going thru a nest of highlevel monsters takes far far longer than doing two or more nests with a group. it just lets non-pet users solo, albiet slowly. personally i dont see any problem with it. it isnt like your going to kill more than a single krayt in a hour with it unlike the ATST abusers...

After soloing 5 kimos with conceal shot ... im worried that people will want to call a nerf to ...

what they dont understand is that it took about 15 minutes for each kimo and i got killed twice.

the other thing is conceal shot is less effective aginst npc's

as i would say that 1 out of every 3 npc's i have tried taking out with conceal shot has ended up with a aggro or group aggro.

i belive conceal shot while it may seem powerful to those who see us soloing certain high lvl creatures . it is no differnt then those who use graul maulers or tka knockdowns. it puts us on a equal footing with other proffesions in PvE.

and it has absolutley no effect in PvP which i would say is its balancing feature.

You can definitely kill far more than 1 krayt per hour with it as a master (depends on the krayts though), but it is slow. I can mow down a regular canyon krayt dragon as a master marksman/riflemanwith a single graul mauler in a few minutesanyways so it's kind of pointless (for those wondering aboutham costs, try food and spice). Although it was kind of fun the first couple of times i killed a giant canyon with conceal shot. Any abilities that let a player potentially kill anything in the game are in my opinion just plain stupid... but hey, whatever the game's still sort of new i guess. Maybe they have some content coming out (one can only hope) that will compare to krayt dragons, as krayt dragons compare to a dwarf nuna. Maybe then this game will be ready to come out of beta.

Why not just post:

Please nerf this.

Would have about the same effect.

I have hunted Kimogilas and Krayt with conceal shot, as well as Peko Peko Albatrose. No, no need to nerf. Even at master you will die nearly 1/2 the time using this shot on a Larger Krayt. It does take a large amount of time in comparison to 1Chef with a CDEF and an ATST. Its way less efective than 2 Grauls and a Commando with a good flame thrower. I could go on, but basically it is balanced the way that it is. I rarely use it now that I am at master, takes way too long. Unless I come across something rare while solo that has a drop I need to try and get.

By the way, we are not the only one with a skill like this. Smugglers have us beat with fein death. They can nail the thing with a bleed or 2, then when it charges use fein death. I have seen smugglers do this and although its very funny to watch, it is incredibly effective and much faster than conceal shot. And no, this should not be nerfed either, whats the point, they still are out done by a couple of CH and a Commando by a mile.

So, yes, conceal shot is very effective, but no, far from Uber and it needs nothing added or taken. Except if they could give it some purpose in pvp, that would be nice. But if they dont... Oh well, like it just like it is.

Good point on the PvP.

Also, I noticed when using it for some faction missions that some of the higher level NPCs kept walking after every shot. I assume they were looking for whoever was putting holes into them. It did make the kills take alot longer and make me have to hit peace, reposition, back away, etc several times.