Rifleman Archive
Thread: are dxrs-6's getting totally nerfed
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SCOR_1337
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:08 pm
#1
my 608-1663 puped dxr-6 turned into a 312-573 dxr-6 on bria this cant be right?
Rakos_Rokarr
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:18 pm
#2
nope..cant be..must be something wrong with calculations...
the new dxr's are like 600+ dmg i think no? if so there's most definately something bad going on... i have a 682 on live that im afraid for since its my only "uber" rifle
KundoJet
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:42 pm
#3
No, not a mistake, that's what you can expect. They are lvl 40 weapons now, and with "ub3r" versions supposed to be around 15% better than crafted, they'll still be far inferior to master-level crafted weapons like the T21 and Assault Bowcaster.
Brutus_Krylop
Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:59 pm
#4
KundoJet wrote:
No, not a mistake, that's what you can expect. They are lvl 40 weapons now, and with "ub3r" versions supposed to be around 15% better than crafted, they'll still be far inferior to master-level crafted weapons like the T21 and Assault Bowcaster.
Utterly ridiculous, when you consider that for almost a year, DXR-6b Disruptor Rifles have been certed above T21s, required a schematic and loot from the Geonosian Caves, and were perhaps the most-used rifles in PvP (along with the T21 and the Jawa).
DXR-6bs should be level 50 or 54, with the appropriate damage (and acid elemental damage).
KundoJet
Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:54 pm
#5
I don't disagree. See the Rifles Cert Levels thread for a map of what rifles appear where, (although I have to doublecheck the elemental damages on them, since some are not showing up on the frogs, apparently).
Brutus_Krylop wrote:
KundoJet wrote:
No, not a mistake, that's what you can expect. They are lvl 40 weapons now, and with "ub3r" versions supposed to be around 15% better than crafted, they'll still be far inferior to master-level crafted weapons like the T21 and Assault Bowcaster.
Utterly ridiculous, when you consider that for almost a year, DXR-6b Disruptor Rifles have been certed above T21s, required a schematic and loot from the Geonosian Caves, and were perhaps the most-used rifles in PvP (along with the T21 and the Jawa).
DXR-6bs should be level 50 or 54, with the appropriate damage (and acid elemental damage).
DomMantell
Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:55 am
#6
Its a badly designed system.
One of the key aspects of the CU (in my mind) was to make all non-basic weapons have a tactical purpose. Whilst you would have weapons that were hard hitting you might also have weapons with very low action costs or different primary damage types. But all the weapons would have a purpose so we'd not all be running around with T21s alone.
With the CU system we have now the weapons certed at master are simply superior in every respect to weapons certed below them. If you can use a T21 there will never be a good reason to use an E11, jawa or DXR6 as they all do less damage, even with elemental damage included.
There will be NO diversity in rifleman weapons, we will all be using T21s and Advanced Laser Rifles unless we're wooks then we can use Assault Bowcasters too.
One of the key aspects of the CU (in my mind) was to make all non-basic weapons have a tactical purpose. Whilst you would have weapons that were hard hitting you might also have weapons with very low action costs or different primary damage types. But all the weapons would have a purpose so we'd not all be running around with T21s alone.
With the CU system we have now the weapons certed at master are simply superior in every respect to weapons certed below them. If you can use a T21 there will never be a good reason to use an E11, jawa or DXR6 as they all do less damage, even with elemental damage included.
There will be NO diversity in rifleman weapons, we will all be using T21s and Advanced Laser Rifles unless we're wooks then we can use Assault Bowcasters too.
Implementor
Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:18 am
#7
add to that the non/crap conversion of enhancers and the general gimping of your Weaponsmiths/Armoursmith craftings
DomMantell wrote:
Its a badly designed system.
One of the key aspects of the CU (in my mind) was to make all non-basic weapons have a tactical purpose. Whilst you would have weapons that were hard hitting you might also have weapons with very low action costs or different primary damage types. But all the weapons would have a purpose so we'd not all be running around with T21s alone.
With the CU system we have now the weapons certed at master are simply superior in every respect to weapons certed below them. If you can use a T21 there will never be a good reason to use an E11, jawa or DXR6 as they all do less damage, even with elemental damage included.
There will be NO diversity in rifleman weapons, we will all be using T21s and Advanced Laser Rifles unless we're wooks then we can use Assault Bowcasters too.
Ackehece
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:45 am
#8
this means that your rifle will be within 20% of the max range of quality for a weapon of that teir
Flatlinedmemory
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:54 am
#9
i think dxr's should be moved to master and lasers kept at lower level..
KundoJet
Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:03 am
#10
Flatlinedmemory wrote:
i think dxr's should be moved to master and lasers kept at lower level..
As things stand currently, there's no reason for this - without elemental damage, a DXR is just another energy weapon. I'm more concerned that one of the kinetic rifles be moved up to master level. But the above poster is right - the non-master rifles are only useful when levelling, and there does not appear to be any reason (so far, anyway- speed and action costs may well be different in live than they are on the frogs) to use a non-master weapon once you are certed for them.
Cadmus
Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:21 pm
#11
I like my DXR its not the best but it has a more rifleman feel. The T21 kinda does the whole sniper look but the DXR is more or a front line rifleman looking weapon...(( kinda like a M16 or some thing look))
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