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Thread: Why is Carbine more Powerful than T21/Laser Rifle?

Ciao
Wed May 11, 2005 6:48 pm
#1

I went to a weapons shop and asked several ppl and the Master lvl Carbine does more raw damage than ANY rifle in the game to date. Is this right? I thought Rifles were the Damage dealer. Am I missing something? Are there new weapons that do more damage? I heard that the DC-15 is the same as a T21 so Im thinking no. Is this working as intended or is there a mistake. How can they say rifles are the damage dealers when carbines seem to have that in their favor.


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Ackehece
Wed May 11, 2005 6:49 pm
#2






Ciao wrote:

I went to a weapons shop and asked several ppl and the Master lvl Carbine does more raw damage than ANY rifle in the game to date. Is this right? I thought Rifles were the Damage dealer. Am I missing something? Are there new weapons that do more damage? I heard that the DC-15 is the same as a T21 so Im thinking no. Is this working as intended or is there a mistake. How can they say rifles are the damage dealers when carbines seem to have that in their favor.


???






damage is not only determined by weapon but by specials as well.


Our snipershot is the single most powerful (non suicide) special in the game.






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Ciao
Wed May 11, 2005 7:16 pm
#3


Ahh, hmm. Ok, thats good to know.


The idea of being prone in a PvP skirmish worries me though. I guess carbines is really the profession I should have taken. At least with the bio arms I can increase my range more toward the cap (there is a cap, right?)


BTW, is conceal shot damaging?



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Hec
Wed May 11, 2005 9:42 pm
#4






Ackehece wrote:





Ciao wrote:

I went to a weapons shop and asked several ppl and the Master lvl Carbine does more raw damage than ANY rifle in the game to date. Is this right? I thought Rifles were the Damage dealer. Am I missing something? Are there new weapons that do more damage? I heard that the DC-15 is the same as a T21 so Im thinking no. Is this working as intended or is there a mistake. How can they say rifles are the damage dealers when carbines seem to have that in their favor.


???






damage is not only determined by weapon but by specials as well.


Our snipershot is the single most powerful (non suicide) special in the game.









What do you mean by "non suicide". I consider the fact that i have to go prone to /snipershot and if i dont oneshot the mob it will be on top of me before i can get the second shot off, pretty suicidal. But for me to be able to do that i would need to be able to /snipershot first, and so far i have not been able to do it outside a camp. that makes the shot useless so far.



Hec





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Ackehece
Wed May 11, 2005 10:15 pm
#5






Hec wrote:





Ackehece wrote:





Ciao wrote:

I went to a weapons shop and asked several ppl and the Master lvl Carbine does more raw damage than ANY rifle in the game to date. Is this right? I thought Rifles were the Damage dealer. Am I missing something? Are there new weapons that do more damage? I heard that the DC-15 is the same as a T21 so Im thinking no. Is this working as intended or is there a mistake. How can they say rifles are the damage dealers when carbines seem to have that in their favor.


???






damage is not only determined by weapon but by specials as well.


Our snipershot is the single most powerful (non suicide) special in the game.









What do you mean by "non suicide". I consider the fact that i have to go prone to /snipershot and if i dont oneshot the mob it will be on top of me before i can get the second shot off, pretty suicidal. But for me to be able to do that i would need to be able to /snipershot first, and so far i have not been able to do it outside a camp. that makes the shot useless so far.



Hec








non-suicidal

aka non last ditch (the shot that assures you will be incapped right after you fire it.)


prone does not mean suicide anymore - your defence is no longer lowered by being prone and you can engage at pb with weapons while prone now. That suggests rifleman should almost alway be prone. I suggest opening up with 2 conceals and then a sniper shot to break cover. that should almost do most cl 80s



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sanmonroe
Wed May 11, 2005 11:16 pm
#6

Is there a master list of Rifleman special damage multiplyers?

I would have looked myself, but I play on Bria and therefore can't take a mission, leave dantooine, enter a building, etc since this morning.



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-JungleKing-
Thu May 12, 2005 1:00 am
#7

Is intended that /aim breaks Conceal ?? Because i use it to power boost my Snipershot when i want to break my cover. But Aim + Snipeshot breaks conceal with the Aim and i am easily traked before i can shoot at my target.



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Ackehece
Thu May 12, 2005 6:31 am
#8






-JungleKing- wrote:
Is intended that /aim breaks Conceal ?? Because i use it to power boost my Snipershot when i want to break my cover. But Aim + Snipeshot breaks conceal with the Aim and i am easily traked before i can shoot at my target.





currently the only special that works under cover is conceal

I hope they change that soon.... I will bring that up as well



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Vaddo
Thu May 12, 2005 7:00 am
#9






Ciao wrote:


Ahh, hmm. Ok, thats good to know.


The idea of being prone in a PvP skirmish worries me though. I guess carbines is really the profession I should have taken. At least with the bio arms I can increase my range more toward the cap (there is a cap, right?)


BTW, is conceal shot damaging?






there is no range cap. my T21 fires at 80m with my cybernetic arms



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Almagill
Thu May 12, 2005 7:28 am
#10



Vaddo wrote:


Ciao wrote:
Ahh, hmm. Ok, thats good to know.
The idea of being prone in a PvP skirmish worries me though. I guess carbines is really the profession I should have taken. At least with the bio arms I can increase my range more toward the cap (there is a cap, right?)
BTW, is conceal shot damaging?



there is no range cap. my T21 fires at 80m with my cybernetic arms





80m?

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Lionell-Johnson
Thu May 12, 2005 8:41 am
#11

Wouldn't a Master Carbineer/Master Rifleman using Sniper Shot with a Carbine always deal more damage than using a Rifle and Sniper Shot? It seems like raw dps is always higher on a nice carbine compared to a nice rifle.


Lionell


-JungleKing-
Thu May 12, 2005 9:07 am
#12

Thanks for the update Ackehence



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InspGadgt
Thu May 12, 2005 5:14 pm
#13






Ackehece wrote:





Ciao wrote:

I went to a weapons shop and asked several ppl and the Master lvl Carbine does more raw damage than ANY rifle in the game to date. Is this right? I thought Rifles were the Damage dealer. Am I missing something? Are there new weapons that do more damage? I heard that the DC-15 is the same as a T21 so Im thinking no. Is this working as intended or is there a mistake. How can they say rifles are the damage dealers when carbines seem to have that in their favor.


???






damage is not only determined by weapon but by specials as well.


Our snipershot is the single most powerful (non suicide) special in the game.









Having the most powerfull special in the game however does not necessarilly make us a damage dealer or nuker if you can only use that shot once per kill. I too have been hearing the carbineers are extremely powerfull. I wonder how their damage per kill and time to kill stacks up to that of the rifleman.



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