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Thread: conceal on a timer?????

Sandzibarr
Tue May 10, 2005 4:20 pm
#1


not talking about the charge up period...


At first i was thinking that mobs were locating a sniper under cover after 3 consecutive concealshots cos their AI is actively hunting where your shots are coming from... as i can generally get 3 shots in before the damn thing warps straight onto my position and proceeds to open upall my major arteries..


so i tried making one shot only.. and then crawling to a diff position to see if that effected it. funny thing was that in the space of time it takes to get 3 conceals off the mob charged me... i had made one shot and moved from the original shot postion.. and the b*stard still heads straight for me..


this has led me to believe that /cover gives you around 12secs after your first /concealshot before the target will engage you.


thats of no use to anyone as a special. bring back the old conceal shot that actually worked.



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JURIAS
Tue May 10, 2005 4:38 pm
#2

WIsh i could help you but icant even get cover up to work so i can se conceal shot//
CraftAddict
Wed May 11, 2005 7:02 am
#3

As soon as you move while covered, you will be found. Cover hasn't been broken or wore off per se, but that the mob is looking very intently for you right now, so any kind of movement is going to attract attention.



Aeriwen Bjorin
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Imperial Outpost, Dantooine
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CraftAddict
Wed May 11, 2005 7:04 am
#4

Oh, and they always find you before the combat music ends, so you might as well take your shots while you can, its gonna take them the same ammount of time to find you no matter what.



Aeriwen Bjorin
Staff Sergeant
Imperial Outpost, Dantooine
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Master Rfileman - Master Marksman - Combat Medic
Slysix
Thu May 12, 2005 11:18 am
#5

I gave up on trying to use conceal shot alot....

I just use concealed shotstwice

then aim and sniper shot


Devero
Thu May 12, 2005 3:29 pm
#6

There's so many times I've tried to take cover and fail. And even when I succeed, I can't see my target once I went prone.


I've pretty much given up on conceal shot. In groups, it's a real pain in the behind to try to explain to everyone you need to have some space (20m) in order to conceal. And then when you fail over and over you look silly. Or if you succeed, you can;t see your target.


I have been a rifleman since very early on and I am very close to calling it quits on rifles.



Also.. a friend of mine outdamaged me and my T21 verses some Krayts. He was using his renegade pistol I made for him.


So I am seriously considering swithcing to Smuggler/Commando. I'll have more weapon certs and be able to apply more states than I can currently.



Grambacca
Fri May 13, 2005 12:32 am
#7

I gave up on trying to use Conceal Shot or Sniper shot. They neither one work at all.


I have never had Sniper Shot work for me since test on TCEp3



All I use now is Kneeshot/Headshot/Aim/Ranged shot


Pathetic ain't it?






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Atobusarragra
Fri May 13, 2005 12:37 pm
#8






CraftAddict wrote:
As soon as you move while covered, you will be found. Cover hasn't been broken or wore off per se, but that the mob is looking very intently for you right now, so any kind of movement is going to attract attention.





? Personal opinion?


Sometimes your posts are very informative Craft, at other times, well, quite a ways out there....


In regards to the above post, how do you know this? Have you got the coding for the games AI mechanics? Just because the graphics on screen show that mob is 'looking' doesnt equal what you've written.


Atobusarragra
Fri May 13, 2005 12:52 pm
#9






Atobusarragra wrote:


Sometimes your posts are very informative Craft, at other times, well, quite a ways out there....






Ok, no real proof of this...just this post seems out there.


My bad. Flame away.


Brainplay
Sat May 14, 2005 2:50 am
#10


Played around with this the other day and it almost seems that it is on a time.


I attacked several humanoid npc's and moved around two of those times to see if it would have an effect.


After hitting the npc they would moved forward slightly then slowly start to turn around in a slow circle looking for me. Despite firing 3 shots or just 1 shot they all seemed to find me. At one point I took a shot then untargetted and waited for the music to die yet I was still found. Most targets were hit at max range of 64m with another two being hit at 50 and 40m. Only the 40m npc seemed to spot me almost right away although there was a slight pause.


Conceal repeatedly failed with higher level npc's or allowed for a single shot and pause before being found.


In other words, its been nerfed from what it used to be bigtime and its utility is extremely low. If the npc dropped agro or could never find you then it would work fine (especially with a long wind up and reset period) but so far its only good as a starting shot only to be followed up with a sniper shot....if you could get that bugged shot to work.





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