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Thread: T21 for 45k Worth the upgrade?

dmized
Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:32 am
#1

Right now Im using a Laser that is 26-417 6.5 speed. The T21 Im thinking about getting is 130-386 and 7.5 speed.


Is it worth the 45k to upgrade? Im not that far into the rifleman only 1 0 0 0 at the moment.



thanks


Tarawa


SocialConformer
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:09 am
#2

I would do it.


Look at that minimum damage. Don't you hate getting those 300 damage shots? I know I do, so I use my dlt20a as my primary weapon for prolonged combat. At least using the T21 (which gets a 50% damage increase over the laser because of AP, btw) for bleeds and lead shotsfor crippling enemies would make it all worthwhile.



At least you have the option of buying one.





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WayneInAustin
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:23 am
#3

Slap a 32% powerup on that sucker and you have a 509 weapon. Remember itis AP3.
Spend the $$$.





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WayneInAustin
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:26 am
#4

And lets say you get lucky and get it Damage sliced for 25%. Then with a 32% powerup you have a 637 damage rifle. If you dont want it, buy it for 45K and I'll pay you 60K for it! Oh crap, we're probably on different servers, lol




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Cerba
Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:58 am
#5

I would take it in a heart beat...well thatsbecause we dont have them on Bria yet. Bet those stats seem pretty good from the ones I've seen around the boards lately.



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Jhabied
Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:44 am
#6

I'm not that far into rifle either (3/1/1/1) and i have a T21. I only use it when there is a critter with an AR rating. I use my laser rifle alot. It fires way fatser and i seem to have good luck with it (dont hit min very often). I hit over 1.5k with HS2 more often with the laser rifle than with the T21. I would get the T21 though because you never know when they will not be avaliable.



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WayneInAustin
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:03 am
#7

The last poster had a good point. You never know when the resources will dry up. I do NOT see a lot of T21s for sale on Eclipse now, but a few here and there. I found a dealer with two T21s for sale and bought both of them, even though it almost busted me. Unfortunatelythey BOTH got sliced for speed (and though thats not totally bad, it wasn't my preference). I am keeping my pre-Nerf T21 (which also got sliced for speed darn it) tucked away and am using the new ones.


Look at SilverLobo's post (may have been a different thread). He has several pre-nerf T21s and I'm sure he's glad he spent the money on those now!





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AlexiSevic
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:06 am
#8

I would get it, but keep your laser rifle also. A good rifleman has 2 or 3 difrent rifles depending in the situtation. The people I talk to have a e-11 for close combat and a T-21 or a laser rifle or both for long range combat.
WayneInAustin
Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:20 am
#9

There are lots of good points in this thread. Here, hopefully, is another:Get a hold of the best DLT20A you can find too. The last poster mentioned that you should have several rifles. This is absolutely correct. I am level 3/2/1/2, close to 3/2/2/3, in rifle and I recently bought a very nice DLT20A ... a rifle I hadnt owned since the early days of my career. It is one of the best moves I have made. It, fortunately, sliced for damage. It is very valuable for one important reason: powerful, butmuch lower HAM costs on specials.


I now get level 17-19 missions on Tatooine which basically means 2000+ non-aggro MOBs like bull bantas and bull rontos. I used to get incapped a lot because my mind would wear out from the initial Mindshots and Headshots, etc. That was back when I used ONLY a T21 for mindshots and Laser Rifle for the rest. Now I use the following strategy and it makes a world of difference:


prone and maskscent (optional)at 60m...
( T21 ) Aim, Mindshot2... (repeat if i miss)
( T21 ) Aim, Mindshot1... (repeat if i miss)
( DLT20A ) Aim, Headshot... (depending on time, repeat if miss)
About this time the MOB is heading your way, but is still at a decent distance...
( DLT20A or E11 ) Aim, Warningshot.... (repeat warningshot but not aim if miss)


At this point, you are "yo-yoing" the beast and you can use your DLT20A for some good headshots without eating the hell out of your mind. Just make sure you stay within 75m or so before he bleeds to death so you get the XP. Hope this helps...





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Master Rifleman 10/18/2003 - present
Master Smuggler 1/25/2004 - 11/05/2004
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TekDragon
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:33 pm
#10

If you want a gun that misses 50+% of the time at it's ideal range and kills you in 10 shots and STILL doesnt have the high end damage of a laser rifle and STILL doesnt mean jack **edit** in PvP since its AP doesnt work...


... sure, buy the T-21.




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Tezctlpoca
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:44 pm
#11

I'd get the T21, definitely. If for nothig else, I love knowing that the bleed I slap on a critter will stick for a reasonably high amount.


Funny thing, we finally got some great resources on Scylla, so now there are a number of T21s floating around; and would you believe I have yet to see even a single E11 rifle since I first started playing? Very odd....




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Gazkan
Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:45 pm
#12

At 1/0/0/0 you won't notice that much difference between it and a laser rifle with dps because you'll miss a bit more often, but I'd still buy it because sometimes you'll get a bunch of crappy hits with a laser rifle in a row due to bad rolls, and not so much with the T-21 because the minimum damageis higher. Go to 60m, go prone, fire... you won't miss. Run around likethe above poster apparently does, and you will miss.
SRTSniper
Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:59 pm
#13

I'd look around a little first. I paid 40k, the day after the T21 nerf. Others were being sold for 75k to 200k. Now I see them for 20k.



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