Rifleman Archive
Thread: Sniper Rifle?
After looking at the sniper threads and calls for extended range I had an idea, might be an old one.
It's possible that Sony will never extend our range, considering 64m max for all ranged weapons as a balanced number for PvP purposes i.e. if pistoleers shoot 50m and we shoot 100m we would never lose a duel, we have 50m of space to run around in and do free damage, even a novice rifleman with a spraystick would be overly powerful.
The pistoleers do have a combat pistol with only 48m range(I know I own one) so it is possible for them to change ranges on specific weapons if they feel like it, we have proof.
Anyways if a commando can get insane damage with a weapon because it recycles slow and is for short range purposes, Sony can make us a sniper rifle, certified at novice rifleman, that fires farther than 64m and also has a very long recycle time but more impressive damage than the T-21. This doesn't solve the rifles should shoot farther debate but would give rifleman a LITTLE something to back up our roles as the 'supposed' master of ranged combat. Even if the rifle required ammo everytime to fire like the rocket launcher I'm sure many players would love to be able to snipe a target without being auto fired on immediately afterwards.
Yeah this is an oft-brought up idea
apparently the devs say it is impossible because the clouds would seperate and a beam of lighting would strike the ground and open the firey pits of hell and we would all fall in and die
Frailboy,
Good Post. I agree. We would have to dodge that lightning though.
Guess the 5 other posts on this wasnt enough, geez.
The Laser Rifle already can one shot people, so making a weapon even stronger and giving it more range would probably kinda mess up balance a little dont you think?
Actually I was thinking along the lines of like 20s speed on a sniper rifle, something too insane to kite with, but even if it had 75m range(not too much more than 64m) it would satisfy -some- of the people demanding more range for a rifleman class.
If you're prone at 75m and fire on someone one on one they will be able to close to 64m before you can stand and start running.
A LOT of people want more range, there are too many game balance issues to make all our rifles fire farther, I have posted on that many times,but one single weapon that has its share of penalties(extreme recycle time or HAM etc.)would still be used and appreciated.
SilverLobo wrote:
The Laser Rifle already can one shot people, so making a weapon even stronger and giving it more range would probably kinda mess up balance a little dont you think?
wow, 1 shot with a laser rifle, a powered up optimum resources Laser Rifle is all I ever use with HS3 in PvP and i have never ever even got remotely close to ever one shotting anybody. But of course you arn't a rifleman so you don't know jack **edit** to begin with.
ElectricBlue17 wrote:
SilverLobo wrote:
The Laser Rifle already can one shot people, so making a weapon even stronger and giving it more range would probably kinda mess up balance a little dont you think?
wow, 1 shot with a laser rifle, a powered up optimum resources Laser Rifle is all I ever use with HS3 in PvP and i have never ever even got remotely close to ever one shotting anybody. But of course you arn't a rifleman so you don't know jack **edit** to begin with.
I have a 610 max damage laser rifle with damage powerup and slice that I use to PvP with, However I have a better one but I'm saving it till I wreck this one.
If my understanding of the combat system iscorrect, the best damage I can hope to do using my 610 damage laser with HS3 on an unamoured target is 686, on a target with armour875. However when using StrafeShot 2 I could do 1143 to an unarmoured target and 1429 to a target with poor armour on. I think this shows that you can in fact 1 shot people with the right weapon and special.
I think the maths are correct, but it's late here so there could be problems.
Hehe, crazy laser rifle talk. I got a pal of mine that is doing a line of very very high end laser rifles. His first one out has a max dmg of like 790 or something like that. I know just with the pre-nerf T21, the highest out of combat shot i've heard of is 8700 dmg. So lets say thats reduced to 250 per 1000 because of the reduction to 25% dmg and where talking 2k or so dmg in PVP......... give and take for light armour say and yeah, one shot kills are feasable, and thats not given that the level II rifle is faster, and higher damaging then the rifleman only rifle..........so wish they'dfix that (Im not saying nerf Laser rifle, im saying stream line stuff, if nothing else, kick spraystick down a level, as well as E11 and put Laser Rifle at Rifles IV.....woudn't effect me any but im just saying for overall weapon progression.
Im all for the idea of a very slow firing uber nasty dmg weapon.......I have one, my T21........but i do think there should be better, considering mines a pre-nerf and the new ones are crap.
I personally think that Rifleman, as well as pistoleers, etc. etc. need several more weapons. If nothing else, put one weapon in each of the 4 lines, at different levels, that are a symbolic representation of what that line means. In the case of rifleman, Accuracy comes to mind as one of our big things, so have a high dmg high accuracy weapon at Accuracy IV. The counter-sniper line seems to be AOE stuff, so how bout a carbine simular full auto support rifle that does AOE with the base rifle, say put that in at III, then maybe a cool silenced rifle or something made up, I honestly don't care if its canon, honestly the least attractive part of this game is that its star wars, at around Concealment Tactics II, and something like the spraystick would be in the general combat line at I......maybe flip em around a bit and have the speed gun be an Light Machine Gun or something equivelent.
I also think that each of the base 3 Single weapon type classess should have one gone at master, the is the holy grail of all that the class is. And a badge of pride for masters other then a silly title.
it's not because in pvp we have 75% damage reduction you could probably get close with that monster ofa laser rifle though, and you are on Tarquinas? MOF? I've been to your PA several times and never saw anybody selling 610 max damage laser rifles, but if you really do have them please by all means tell me I'd buy one for just about any price!
Seflyn wrote:
I have a 610 max damage laser rifle with damage powerup and slice that I use to PvP with, However I have a better one but I'm saving it till I wreck this one.
If my understanding of the combat system iscorrect, the best damage I can hope to do using my 610 damage laser with HS3 on an unamoured target is 686, on a target with armour875. However when using StrafeShot 2 I could do 1143 to an unarmoured target and 1429 to a target with poor armour on. I think this shows that you can in fact 1 shot people with the right weapon and special.
Those numbers are AFTER the 75% PvP reduction.
Yep I'm on Tarq and in MOF, but I'm sorry to say I think my guildmate has stopped selling most of his weapons, he got bored with stocking his vendor full of guns onenightand it being empty the next. 
Most decent masters can produce 350max lasers, stick on a 30% damage slice and 30% max damage powerup and you get 600+. Madar and Sariff make very good weapons, the latterhas very reasonable prices.
Massive damage (knocking on the door of the most powerfull weapon in game), Massive delay meaning 1 shot per battle to kill, if you miss, the likelyhood is your dead.
But dont make it available at novice rifleman, it will make it too common, make it available at Master Rifleman or at least Master Sniping Tier.