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Thread: Conceal Shot Questions

WolfGuy
Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:31 pm
#1

Hi there,

I know these questions have probably been asked before, but I need current info on this....

When I use Conceal Shot to kill something, should I expect to get XP?

When I use Conceal Shot to kill something, should I expect to get loot?

When I kill something with a combination of Conceal Shot and other shots, should I expect to get XP?

When I kill something with a combination of Conceal Shot and other shots, should I expect to get loot?

Do I need to be under cover to use Conceal Shot?

Does Surprise Shot do anything?

Thanks in advance for your help, I have always wanted to be a rifleman and I am finding out it is a lot of fun. Nerf or no nerf, I think this will be a permenent part of my character's template.




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DarthKirby001
Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:37 pm
#2






WolfGuy wrote:
Hi there,

I know these questions have probably been asked before, but I need current info on this....

When I use Conceal Shot to kill something, should I expect to get XP? Yes

When I use Conceal Shot to kill something, should I expect to get loot? As long as you or your group does the most damage to the creature, you'll get any loot the mob has.

When I kill something with a combination of Conceal Shot and other shots, should I expect to get XP?You can use any combo of rifle attacks and get xp

When I kill something with a combination of Conceal Shot and other shots, should I expect to get loot? yes

Do I need to be under cover to use Conceal Shot? No

Does Surprise Shot do anything? It suxxors. As far as I know it does nothing special.

Thanks in advance for your help, I have always wanted to be a rifleman and I am finding out it is a lot of fun. Nerf or no nerf, I think this will be a permenent part of my character's template.








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WolfGuy
Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:09 pm
#3

Wow. I wouldn't have expected to get XP or loot when something might not be able to attack me back.

The reason I ask is because I had some mobs go poof on me when I used Conceal Shot, no XP, loot or harvesting.

If anyone else can confirm or deny this that would be great. I stopped using conceal shot because I didn't want to risk losing the xp or loot from NPCs or mobs.




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WolfGuy <I> Gaun Hung-Lo <RIFT>
DARK JEDI KNOOB COMMANDO
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Vendor at [ 1840, -5160 ] Athens, Rori
Jedi are total noobs
WolfGuy
Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:44 am
#4

/bump




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WolfGuy <I> Gaun Hung-Lo <RIFT>
DARK JEDI KNOOB COMMANDO
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Vendor at [ 1840, -5160 ] Athens, Rori
Jedi are total noobs
Sotaudi
Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:50 am
#5






WolfGuy wrote:
Wow. I wouldn't have expected to get XP or loot when something might not be able to attack me back.

The reason I ask is because I had some mobs go poof on me when I used Conceal Shot, no XP, loot or harvesting.

If anyone else can confirm or deny this that would be great. I stopped using conceal shot because I didn't want to risk losing the xp or loot from NPCs or mobs.





Concealshot is just another Rifle shot. The only thing different about it is that you do not trigger an automatic response from your target. So it does not automatically attack back, but that does not mean that, for other reasons (you miss twice, it sees you for some reason other than the Concealshot, etc.), that it won't attack you if it gets a chance. Therefore, do not think of Concealshot as being a special shot that operates under different rules than any other shot.


Regarding things going poof, that can happen with any shot and with any profession. A group of my guild mates, for instance, were fighting a Kimogilla this weekend, and it went poof on them. Spawned objects have a limited life span. If you start attacking it after it has been in the game world for a while, or if you take a long time to kill it, there is a chance of watching the object despawn before you can kill it. It can seem to happen more often with Concealshot than other shots because Concealshot has a longer time delay multiplier than most of our other shots and, at lower than Master Rifleman speeds, it takes a long time to kill things with the shot.


Looting and harvesting rights and XP are completely dependent on how much damage you do to the target. When multiple attackers are involved, the looting rights go to the person or group who did the greatest amount of damage. For XP, the systemfigures out how much damage you did with each weapon, then grants you a percentage on a per weapon basis. If more than one person damaged the target, then that person's or persons' weapons used are also figured in. There is no consideration as to what shot was used.


So the only factor you should consider is that if you take too long to kill the target, it may despawn. But that is true of any shot, so I would not stop using Concealshot for that reason alone.



Sotaudi Crestlighter
Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

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