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Thread: thoughts on block.

razorblazor99
Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:10 pm
#1

I faced a master rifleman/tkm today and I noticed he was blocking in the combat tab. This is the first time I have noticed block working and every second person I face is a rifleman. I was under the impression that block did not work for rifleman.

So that got me thinking maybe I should go and get pikeman with 1 lvl def tech box. Then grab a +5 block SEA and cap it. What are your thoughts on block?



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cherryred
Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:23 pm
#2

i hate to sound stupid here, but since when is block working?



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antares_Kauri
Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:57 pm
#3

If you'd read the posts on this forum and the pikeman forum about block...

Block "works." It shows as a counterattack in your combat log, but as a block in the log of the people near you. Block stops 50% of the incoming damage unlike counterattack and dodge that evade 100%. The developers have told the pikeman correspondent that this is intended.

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Belegdae
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:44 am
#4

Block does work for rifleman but I have noticed that it does not happen all that often, even at master. When you do block though you take 50% of the original damage.



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Don_JT
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:04 am
#5

Does anyone know if that is 50% ontop of Ranged Damage mitigation?



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Thecker
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:24 am
#6

It's not 'on top' of anything it means you take half damage, and yes half of what you would have got, if you are wearing armor it means NO damage, cause when this does a half damage message its always that your armor blocked it and nothing else.


Personly I've seen many 'counters' and I normally dont see damage of any kind not even the armor blocking it message, on ranged its like he hits you but you shrug it off and counterattack(which in this case means continue your attacks lol).(I would guess if you werent wearing armor you'd get damage on these less common defenses)


This as has been said before by me works much more often then getting 'missed' in melee, I get at least 2 blocks on a mob for every miss i get.


Making me believe that tho they definatly have a to hit bonus, it has no effect on blocking--ie you will block normally.


Lastly, my rough estimate is that you take at least twice as many hits holding a rifle as holding a melee weapon or unarmed, I seriously doubt that even 125 blocks would reduce it much(and has been said elsewhere its possible that rifle block and pikeman block dont stack /shrug), in addition you have no melee toughness going either.


The only advantage I can see to any of this is it might give you more time to switch to your melee master if you happened to block or get missed. otherwise youre going to get severly stomped in any case if youre holding that rifle too long in melee.





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