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Thread: How the heck do they do it?

s2tele
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:09 am
#1

Ok just curious. I am a master rifleman with a decent t-21 and jawa rifle. I went to pvp for one of my first times with brandy, and muon in my system. I am also master tk and used power boost as well. Point I had like a 2000+ mind pool. I went to pvp against antoher rifleman or two in a large scale pvp battle. I had my mind drained so fast it made me dizzy lol. It seemed as I did not even touch their mind pool at all. I know they were using mind and head shots, but still I noticed hardly any pool drain from them. I wondered how the heck they did this. Thnx in advance fo rany help.
certifiedandrew
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:18 am
#2

Sounds like your enemy was at his speed cap andhad consumed Brandy and Canape (eating Canape 3x can give you a 1900 bonus to will and focus, while good brandy 2x can give you 860 to all mind stats), and he may have been mind buffed at a Cantina, and may have consumed Muon.


Also, your opponent was probably at his speed cap, and was using a powered up Jawa rifle. I do all of the above (Jawa at 394 dmg), and I lay waste to most opponents very quickly by bleeding their mind, dizzying them, and spamming headShot3 from 60-64m. Never underestimate the burstRun, though. You've gotta stay on your toes, because if a melee player gets within 25m, you play by his rules. I've defeated plenty of them from even closer than 25m, but it's much more challenging when they KD you with every 3rd attack.



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s2tele
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:23 am
#3

Ahhh!! whats the speed cap at?
beamstalk
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:39 am
#4

once per second for every weapon.


for most rifles all you need is an extra +7 speed on top of the +90 from master rifle, this will get almost every rifle to speed cap


so to get an extra +7 you need money, try to find clothing and armour attachments that add rifle speed





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OditeFosore
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:12 am
#5

The hardcore pvp'ers will have a krayt jawa that will shoot around 400 damage (many have 500+), will shoot at the 1 sec cap, and will have decent stun armor. Many riflemen have picked up mind poison/fire tuskens that they will use to land a flurry, a bleed, and amind poisonat the start of a battle. They will use the jawatilltheysee the dmg they hit you with and will switch to a stocked/scoped T21 (or krayt)immediately if they see the dmg being reduced by stun armor. They'll have eaten (or will eat mid-battle)3 canapes, 2 brandies, and will have a muon on their toolbar for emergencies.


It's unfortunately less tactics than preparation, but it's the system. DOT weapons really help in the long-term. If there are multiple opponents in range, I will start out using flurry2 with a mind poison dot tusken that I picked up in order to stick the stun and the poison on all at once. As soon asthey'restuck, I pick the opponent with the strongest offense to go for first. Hit them with a mind bleed and then go with HS3's. They will have a poison and a bleed ticking as well as a krayt jawa hitting 450dps. If I start to go down I'll back off and try to pull them towards me, buying time to heal my mind with any food that I have not yet eaten. I will eat 1 canape and 1 brandy before a battle and will hotkey more for mid-battle - the regen in the middle of thet battle can save you because opponents will misjudge how far they've gotten you down and will waste their own mind on specials.


I still die quite a bit in pvp battle to better riflemen than I, but those are the tricks I use to get a lot of newer folks (like yourself, sorry). Good luck though, it's moderately fun to try. There are better 1st person shooters out there, but this gamehas a lot going still.


Cheers,


- Odite Fosore



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s2tele
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:37 am
#6

Thx for the help guys! I will try these out
FicoFeafip
Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:04 pm
#7

I'm also wondering what kind of helmet each of was wearing. If you weren't wearing a helmet at allthen such an outcome was 100% guaranteed (T21 with unarmored head and the target is dead, period). If you were wearing a non-stun composite helmet then you are still in the same boat (Jawa will rip you apart unless your helmet has at LEAST 30% protection on stun). If your opponent, being a well prepared rifleman, was wearing a 40% stun helmet (composite) then you were pretty much screwed going into the fight as nothing you could do would take out his mind faster than yours (dizzy and suppresion might save your butt though).



Personally, when I am trully in PvP mode I get my mind stats so high that it's almost rediculous. Musician, Dancer, Canape x3, Brandy x2, Muon, and maxium migrated human mind stats leaves me at around 3300/5000+(!!!)/4100 on my mind stats. Those numbers are still allWAY above 3k even in my full, 40% stun, triple-layered, advanced composite. Thus, even in full armor, I am regening mind like crazy. (downers don't even pose that much of a problem if your canape is long lasting)

KnightHawk420
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:32 pm
#8

Set your magic markers at 1400. If you have both 1400 focus/willpower you will NOT use any ham when performing specials.





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s2tele
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:56 am
#9

Sweeeeet! Canapes will set it up to around 1400? Or do you need other items?
OditeFosore
Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:38 am
#10




s2tele wrote:
Sweeeeet! Canapes will set it up to around 1400? Or do you need other items?




Long as you get above 1400 of each. Play with your stat migration in order to make sure you get to 1400 with the amount of food that you want to eat. Also, you can eat 3 canapes of you have good, low-filling food from a chef. Trick is to eat 2 and use different food such as KD, Dizzy, or Damage reduction food instead of eating the 3rd unless you know you're only going against other riflemen.


Cheers,


- Odite Fosore





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Imperial Soldier 12 Point Master ChefΨ

Gavinik
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:17 am
#11






OditeFosore wrote:

The hardcore pvp'ers will have a krayt jawa that will shoot around 400 damage (many have 500+), will shoot at the 1 sec cap, and will have decent stun armor. Many riflemen have picked up mind poison/fire tuskens that they will use to land a flurry, a bleed, and amind poisonat the start of a battle. They will use the jawatilltheysee the dmg they hit you with and will switch to a stocked/scoped T21 (or krayt)immediately if they see the dmg being reduced by stun armor. They'll have eaten (or will eat mid-battle)3 canapes, 2 brandies, and will have a muon on their toolbar for emergencies.


It's unfortunately less tactics than preparation, but it's the system. DOT weapons really help in the long-term. If there are multiple opponents in range, I will start out using flurry2 with a mind poison dot tusken that I picked up in order to stick the stun and the poison on all at once. As soon asthey'restuck, I pick the opponent with the strongest offense to go for first. Hit them with a mind bleed and then go with HS3's. They will have a poison and a bleed ticking as well as a krayt jawa hitting 450dps. If I start to go down I'll back off and try to pull them towards me, buying time to heal my mind with any food that I have not yet eaten. I will eat 1 canape and 1 brandy before a battle and will hotkey more for mid-battle - the regen in the middle of thet battle can save you because opponents will misjudge how far they've gotten you down and will waste their own mind on specials.


I still die quite a bit in pvp battle to better riflemen than I, but those are the tricks I use to get a lot of newer folks (like yourself, sorry). Good luck though, it's moderately fun to try. There are better 1st person shooters out there, but this gamehas a lot going still.


Cheers,


- Odite Fosore




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