Rifleman Archive

Here is my answer to the Proposed Nerf of the T-21, I feel it is the most constructive.

In all MMORPG there are a few constants that everyone agrees with, there is 1) a Nuker 2) a Healer 3) a amage Dealer/Tank

In SWG these are also true we have Damage/Tank = Pistoleer, Doctor = Healer, Rifleman = Nuker

The Rifleman is the Nuker of the group, capable of delivering massive amounts of damage to bring down prey faster, Noone complains on EQ that a LVL 60 Wizard can Instakill a LVL 45 mob, the same is true here but may need to be adjusted in the following way.

Keep the T21 the way it is BUT only let Master Riflemen have Cert for it.

Do make the changes posted to T21 but call it a T22 Light Rifle and make it the cert for Novice Riflemen.

Not only will this make people want to work to gettign Master Rifleman but it will keep all the BH/Pistoleers from just training novice to own uber weapons. Plus it will still give the Novice Rifleman a slight edge over those who can only use the Marksman line of Rifles until they reach the Coveted MASTER.

Hope I explained that well.

Trexor
Rifleman/BH (Pistol Tree)

This sounds like a possibility ..

That sounds good to me.

But decrease the HAM cost for the T22 also.

i was thinking the same thing, about giving the cert to masters. i didn't even think about making a new weapon though.. and that would be good cause i'm not master yet.

No other class has a master cert. If you're going to do this, then add the most popular weapons to master for each of the other weapons.

in response to myrick, no other class is dealing 3k damage either with thier Novice certs, Except for CH who was nerfed to only allow the high lvl Pets at Master

Durker, you are quite mis-informed. Both other primary ranged classes can deal 3k in the time it takes us to deal 3k.

No one else has a weapon that takes 9 seconds to reload either.

The T21 I have has a HAM cost around 60/60/100. Without any enhancements and after 5 special shots, I'm more than half-dead from unhealable self-inflicted mind costs PLUS the health/action damage as well. In PvE, we still take 2-3 times damage from melee for no rational reason. In PvP, 75% of pistol users can do mind damage as well, have better accuracy *from any range*, and can keep us knocked-down til we're dead. How is this unbalanced?

Move the cert to Master Rifleman and leave it the hell alone.

I was thinking the same thing too. The only thing that would bring the game down is people taking Novice rifleman just to use the T21 (I dont' even think it's THAT great if you don't have the speed upgrades, but who knows...) so yeah, put it at master rifleman. I've almost made it to master rifleman, and haven't touched a T21 yet, so it's not like it's necessary for novices.

While I appreciate your attempts to find a constructive work around I strongly believe that NOTHING SHOULD BE CHANGED .

We should NOT be discussing what we should do instead of the current T-21 situation . We should be insisting that the T-21 be left alone . Please do not be a " splitter " and divide our attention from the most critical issue ....

RIFLEMEN ARE SO BORKED that an over powered weapon .... even one stronger than the T-21 would not be enough to balance the classes .

I hope this is crystal clear to everyone . Do NOT waste our focus on coming up with alternatives for the Devs INSIST that things stay the way they are .

That's all I have to say and to the author of this thread re read the first sentence .

Thanks all and do not be STUPID COWS and take this lying down . Why is the T-21 so urgent , but the ridiculous accuracy of Pistols is not ? Why is the T-21 so " unbalanced " but the constant and sickening flow of Knockdown spams is not ????

DO NOT TAKE THIS CHANGE

Voice your opinion LOUD AND CLEAR

thanks all

Jon

I like the idea.

However i would suggest that all weapons need to be changed accordingly.

I dont know what pistols and carbines elite are, but i think a weapon should be made available to every level of skill.

I will do rifleman, cuase i know that.

Marksen - CDEF Rifle

Intermediate - DLT20

Advanced - DLT20A, Tusken

Elite, Spraystick, Jawa

Novice Rifleman - Laser

Intermediate Sniper - T22 (The T21 with proposed changes)

Advanced Sniper - E11 (with higher mim & max damage rates)

Elite Sniper - no weapon (possibly introduce the ability to use a vehcile mounted rifle, while moving)

Master Sniper - T21 as it stands today

Now, i for one, would welcome a change like that, it would make the whole experience alot mroe enjoyable.

As it stands, im currently 1/1/1/1 in riflem and if something like this was introuduce it would give the rifleman more of an incentive to advance there profession other than the speed modifier we get when we master.

Having said that, i think all ranged weapons and all skill should have something similair introduced. I was thinking the other daythat is was simply crazy that you could get all the best ranged weapons (pistol, carbine and rifle) by simply mastering the Marksmen and taking the novice of each profession (pistol, carbine & rifle)

much needed bump