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KhoevenNalarDre

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:00 am

Hello all, I'm both a Master BH and a Master Rifleman and I havea dilemma... I have a set of really good tissues to use but am unsure which rifle to go with. I will be conducting some tests of my own of base versions of each of these, but would greatly appreciate any comparative studies/info you can provide.

I'll post my own findings later tonight or tomorrow.

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Ackehece

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:02 am

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KhoevenNalarDre wrote:

Hello all, I'm both a Master BH and a Master Rifleman and I havea dilemma... I have a set of really good tissues to use but am unsure which rifle to go with. I will be conducting some tests of my own of base versions of each of these, but would greatly appreciate any comparative studies/info you can provide.

I'll post my own findings later tonight or tomorrow.

if your a BH do the HLR

if a Rifleperson be aRifleperson and make a T-21

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KhoevenNalarDre

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:04 am

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Why would you recommend the T over the ALR? Other than looks lol From comparing those crafted by some of my server's best, it appears the only real difference betwen the two is a better accuracy mod on the ALR.

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jason67

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:10 am

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KhoevenNalarDre wrote:
Why would you recommend the T over the ALR? Other than looks lol From comparing those crafted by some of my server's best, it appears the only real difference betwen the two is a better accuracy mod on the ALR.

Absolutely no reason to make a T21 anymore other than looks. It requires much more rare resources which are difficult to get in high quality ultimately making it more difficult to get near the caps. Also you can not use a scope on a T21 but you can on a laser rifle making it logically the better choice, not to mention it uses pretty generic resources making it easy to get high quality resources for it.

Now for your original question. If you have some very good tissues I would suggest waiting until a WS can get their hands on the schem/barrels for a trandoshan rifle. They are now dropping so I don't imagine it will be long, and are basically identical to a laser rifle for stats, but it would look much better, and the trando rifle will be alot more rare since it requires a looted schem and components. Just my thoughts for something a little different. Resource requirements for the trando rifle are the same as for the laser rifle and so far it would appear that the caps are in the same places as the laser rifle. Anyways if I had some high end tissues that's what I would do with them at the moment being a rifleman/bh myself.

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KhoevenNalarDre

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:38 am

#5

Thanks for the input, Hostage. I can see where the ideal among T's, ALR, and the Trando would be, and agree with your logic on those. However, my main concern on comparing the HLR is how the elemental damage works in. How does it affect specials? It seems that now that elemental damage is actually (supposedly) working as intended, that just how it fits in to actual combat damage figures will impact weapon selection for vairied profs.

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AramusLowca

Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:42 am

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if your a BH do the HLR

if a Rifleperson be aRifleperson and make a T-21

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ROFL.

NO.

go ALR, less tissues, high acc, sometimes even better stats due to materials.

Message Edited by AramusLowca on 07-01-2005 05:44 AM

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valetman

Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:55 am

#7

AramusLowca wrote:
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if your a BH do the HLR

if a Rifleperson be a Rifleperson and make a T-21

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ROFL.

NO.

go ALR, less tissues, high acc, sometimes even better stats due to materials.
Message Edited by AramusLowca on 07-01-2005 05:44 AM

That is exactly the reason I WOULDNT put tissues in an ALR.

You know why? because after min range on snipershot, the next logical step in reducing the effect of rifles in PvP is to nerf the ALR that is , as you say, as good as a master rifle cert weapon without the need for the skillbox.

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Iron-Monkey

Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:27 am

#8

KhoevenNalarDre wrote:
Thanks for the input, Hostage. I can see where the ideal among T's, ALR, and the Trando would be, and agree with your logic on those. However, my main concern on comparing the HLR is how the elemental damage works in. How does it affect specials? It seems that now that elemental damage is actually (supposedly) working as intended, that just how it fits in to actual combat damage figures will impact weapon selection for vairied profs.

Okay, being a Commando/Rifleman I have been playing around with Elemental damage a bit since pub19 went in. Here's the deal, the elemental damage listed on a weapon will add, at a maximum, that amount ot each hit. So, let's say you have a weapon with these stats:

1000 max

Elemental damage 84

and you fired Ranged Shot at something with no defense, before pub19 the weapon would hit for 1000 damage, after pub19 it hits for 1084 damage. That simple. Normally though, for most creatures/NPCs (haven't check on PvP yet) you get about 75%-90% of your elemental damage number added to your post modified damage output. Thus using a special that adds a 1.5x modifier to your shot will not add 1.5x modifier to your elemental damage, it will calculate modified damage then add elemental afterwards. So, the 1.5x special would hit a no defense enemy for 1500 damage, add in elemental for 1584. Elemental damage is "nice" to have, but is certainly not busting down the walls in terms of uber damage added, and more importantly should NOT be the deciding factor for choosing your weapon.

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KhoevenNalarDre

Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:34 am

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Thank you, that is exactly the sort of data I was after.

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Demio_Olaron

Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:01 pm

#10

I really love the HLR and I think it's a good option for MBH / MRifles like me

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JeffIncredible

Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:00 am

#11

does elemental suffer the 75% reduction?

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