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Thread: Can riflemen solo a NS elder?

Stormbilly
Tue May 04, 2004 3:51 pm
#1

And if they can, what tactics do you use?
DomMantell
Tue May 04, 2004 4:02 pm
#2

Yes its possible

Conceal shot will work on them.

If you don't miss

If you don't get a 1 point bleed

But that's a really slow way of killing. Last NS Elder I killed with conceal shot took over 15 minutes to drop (and that's with 98 rifle speed firing at 1 second intervals).

Alternatively you can try a combination of strafe2 and running in the opposite direction. You'll probably agro most of the mobs on Dathomir trying that however.

The best way to kill them is to find a willing melee fighter to tank them while you hit the elder with strafe2 while staying close enough to supply heals if needed
Otegu123
Tue May 04, 2004 4:42 pm
#3



Im a rifleman/bh so i have m.marksman aswell. When i solo NS elders i usualyfire acouple of headshots to get her away from the other NS's then i just kite as best i can...


Be sure to keep the radar at 128m or greater, kiting her through dath can get a little tricky trying to avoid all the mobs...depending on her HAM i either SS2 or HS3her to death Then,when she gets to within 40m of me i spam /supressionfire, after about 15 of these she'll kneel, allowing you to get back to kiting at 60m. Then i just repeat,while trying stay clear of all the nearby mobs







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OditeFosore
Tue May 04, 2004 4:56 pm
#4




Otegu123 wrote:



Im a rifleman/bh so i have m.marksman aswell. When i solo NS elders i usualyfire acouple of headshots to get her away from the other NS's then i just kite as best i can...


Be sure to keep the radar at 128m or greater, kiting her through dath can get a little tricky trying to avoid all the mobs...depending on her HAM i either SS2 or HS3her to death Then,when she gets to within 40m of me i spam /supressionfire, after about 15 of these she'll kneel, allowing you to get back to kiting at 60m. Then i just repeat,while trying stay clear of all the nearby mobs




This is a lot of fun. I think I've even read an FAQ on this somewhere. NS Elders are always surrounded by those nasty little protectors and spell weavers that are super-riflemen resistant. If you're just going for the elder you can always conceal shot, but getting your loot will be fairly difficult unless you've already killed off all her friends. If you want to pull her, use a bleed (mindshot)to get her out into the open following you. I too can't seem to get warning or threaten shot to work on them but I can get suppression fire to force them to a knee with a few attempts. Fairly exciting running through the wilds of Dathomir with one pissed of force-sensitive witch chasing you. With HS3 you can probably take an elder out in about 10 minutes - quite a fun chase.


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Belegdae
Tue May 04, 2004 6:48 pm
#5






DomMantell wrote:
Yes its possible

Conceal shot will work on them.

If you don't miss

If you don't get a 1 point bleed

But that's a really slow way of killing. Last NS Elder I killed with conceal shot took over 15 minutes to drop (and that's with 98 rifle speed firing at 1 second intervals).

Alternatively you can try a combination of strafe2 and running in the opposite direction. You'll probably agro most of the mobs on Dathomir trying that however.

The best way to kill them is to find a willing melee fighter to tank them while you hit the elder with strafe2 while staying close enough to supply heals if needed






I used this tactic a few days ago. Just continued to conceal shot and healed when necessary. It took about 35 min unbuffed except for brandy. Not once was I attacked and when the killing was over I just burst ran into the rest of the group and got 2K creds.





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Geddeo
Wed May 05, 2004 10:20 am
#6

I haven't fought an elder in a while, but I have solo'd them before. I didn't have armor at the time and could only take 3 shots from her before I died, but luckily the elder can only hit you if she is withing 40m. Once you piss her off, kite as much as possible till she is at 45m then hit the burst run. After a while she will slow down to a walk, and unless you posture change her or knock her down she will continue to walk after you and it is easy to stay out of range.



When I did this it was before musician buffs and brandy and all I had on me was muon. I tried using strafe2 at the start, but after a bit I just let it autofire and she finally died in about 30 minutes. I guess I didn't solo it outright though since it took so long I had random people come by and try to lend a "helping hand". Basically all they did was die quickly and make it so she could run after me again :/.
UWSkeletor
Wed May 05, 2004 10:34 am
#7






Stormbilly wrote:

And if they can, what tactics do you use?







I know it's not solo, but I've been doing it with one other person recently. She's a master swordsman. So we both just pound away at the mind, doesn't take us too long to kill her, especially since she forgot how to use her force powers . Luckily for us too I'm also a pikeman, so if my tank gets into trouble I can run in and grab aggro while she heals up. It works really well.


I haven't tried one solo, but the safer bet would be to conceal shot. If you happen to aggro you could just hop on your bike and run away or burstrun away (although some of those elders have a nasty habit of chasing you well over 500m!)

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Sybill_DeGvand
Wed May 05, 2004 11:37 am
#8

1. Prone. Cover. Leave your bike out.


2. Mindshot2.


3. Get on your bike and kite her away from any other mobs.


4. When she drops aggro (once the bleed is done), prone, cover, begin concealshotting. Again, leave bike out.


5. If you get a 1 pt bleed, ride around til it goes away.


6. Land and repeat as necessary.


I usually don't get more than one 1 pt bleed. Once it's gone, she's usually easy game.





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Orrajow
Wed May 05, 2004 6:51 pm
#9

I have killed 3 elders so far since reaching master rifleman. Not a good piece of loot yet. Anyway, conceal shot works well. I had one aggro me and follow me for 500m. What was great about this was we ended up at the NS vs Singing Mountain Clan battlegrounds. The elder and Arch Clan Witch duked it out while I headshot her to dead. I thought about leaving them to beat on each other all day
Yettii_TUS
Fri May 07, 2004 11:50 am
#10

The only one I've seen (and my group killed... he he...) had 100% energy resists like a Spell-Weaver. We had to bleed her and let the melee guys knock her down a bit, but once the resists dropped (afterabout 75k damage done by blast/keneticmelee)it was HS3 from two master riflemen that put her on the ground.


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einm
Fri May 07, 2004 2:11 pm
#11

Im a master swordsman/rifleman..I dont even bother with conceal shot, just intimidate and HS3 her ass.
EoZilbriss
Fri May 07, 2004 4:50 pm
#12






einm wrote:
Im a master swordsman/rifleman..I dont even bother with conceal shot, just intimidate and HS3 her ass.





Aye, this dude has the idea - the rest of you're sissies Me, i'm Master Doc/Rifles, so i go in cracked up on Buffs and Food, and just drag her out of the group (if there is one), and proceed to pound at her until she dies. Takes like 5 minutes, if that. Great fun, i might add. The trick is the same trick to EVERYTHING else in the game - 80% kinetic composite


EDIT: OH, and i forgot another trick - after pounding on them for quite some time, if you run away, they have a HIGH chance of WALKING after you. Now, you can imagine, an NS Elder walking up one of those sheer cliffs in Dathomir can take AGES - and you'rer 64m away

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Pire
Fri May 07, 2004 4:53 pm
#13

eheheh


cant kite them anymore it seems.


i tried 5 times and lost 5 vehicles .....



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