Rifleman Archive
Thread: Rifleman Speed Overrated
For a master rifleman, basically anything below an 8 or 9 speed on your rifle still gives you a 1.0 speed. Speed slices are great for a rifleman in training who hasn't gone up the rifle skills line and gotten more speed. ANY Master Rifleman should tell you that you want a damage slice when you're at Master. A speed slice at that level is 100% useless. Most serious players also use Power Ups, so if you are working rifles and want to deal with the hastle of reloading P'ups, a damage slice is for you also....
Plus, I thought ranged damage mitigation helped to lessen ranged attacks on YOU, not increase your ranged attacks on others.....am I 100% incorrect?
Kraftomatic wrote:
Excluding rifleman who use riflespeed skilltapes (the ones who have millions or alts who are artisans), or rifleman without master marksman (after all every skillpoint counts in a strict pvp template..
But usually... when you're a Master Rifleman, you want the fastest speed possible. So, you go out and find skill tapes. 
Who wouldnt go out and buy a Rifle Speed skill tape?
Anyone who can't afford to pay the 1M+/point?
Finalla wrote:
But usually... when you're a Master Rifleman, you want the fastest speed possible. So, you go out and find skill tapes.
Who wouldnt go out and buy a Rifle Speed skill tape?
Piaras wrote:
For a master rifleman, basically anything below an 8 or 9 speed on your rifle still gives you a 1.0 speed. Speed slices are great for a rifleman in training who hasn't gone up the rifle skills line and gotten more speed. ANY Master Rifleman should tell you that you want a damage slice when you're at Master. A speed slice at that level is 100% useless. Most serious players also use Power Ups, so if you are working rifles and want to deal with the hastle of reloading P'ups, a damage slice is for you also....
If you're talking about auto-fire then you're probably correct. I wouldn't know because I rarely use it in pvp and I can't imagine others do either. He's talking about speeds in relation to special shots and I can guarantee you that a 8 or 9 speed rifle can't hit 1.0 speed using specials(strafe2) even with Master Marksman.
Plus, I thought ranged damage mitigation helped to lessen ranged attacks on YOU
You're correct. Unless you're talking about ranged mitigation of someone else
Piaras wrote:
For a master rifleman, basically anything below an 8 or 9 speed on your rifle still gives you a 1.0 speed. Speed slices are great for a rifleman in training who hasn't gone up the rifle skills line and gotten more speed. ANY Master Rifleman should tell you that you want a damage slice when you're at Master. A speed slice at that level is 100% useless. Most serious players also use Power Ups, so if you are working rifles and want to deal with the hastle of reloading P'ups, a damage slice is for you also....
Plus, I thought ranged damage mitigation helped to lessen ranged attacks on YOU, not increase your ranged attacks on others.....am I 100% incorrect?
At master rifleman (90 speed), anything 10 speed or lower will be capped for a regular attack. Honestly, when do you use a regular attack?
Here's some interesting numbers that you should be aware of.
At 90 speed, a rifle needs <5.1 speed to cap headshot3.
At 90 speed, a rifle needs <2.9 speed to cap strafe2.
At 90 speed, a rifle with 8 speed has a 1.6 second rof for headshot3.
At 90 speed, a rifle with 8 speed has a 2.8 second rof for strafe2.
Most people only pay big money for like +5 tapes in my experience.
WolfGuy wrote:
OMG people pay that much for +1 tapes!?! I have like 10 points in speed tapes that I don't use because I am a Master Rifleman / Master Commando. Boy, I should sell those...
Most people only pay big money for like +5 tapes in my experience.
I'd say it starts with 1M/+ at +3 on my server. And then increases fast. I think a +8 was sold for 12-13M a week ago. And now a +5 is up to 5.5 with several hours to go.