Rifleman Archive

http://www.sysabend.org/users/grail/screenShot0033.jpg

and everyone wonders why pistoleers are superiour to riflemen....

Hating the people that hate riflemen! Anarchy to those classes that do! Death to Bounty hunters, Pistoleers, and Commandos alike! LOVE THE RIFLE, BE THE RIFLE, (just don't love the rifle too much, that is taboo in some cultures)

Pardon me, but I fail to see the relevance. The screenshot is of a smuggler taking out a droid engineer. Yes, his Last Ditch shot hit for very nice damage, but it's an advanced attack, and certainly comparable to the damage advanced riflemen can do.

-Kitare
Master Rifleman / Master Creature Handler
Wanderhome

Yes I posted the same link yesterday. I have no problem at all that they do that kind of damage. What I do have a problem with is their Novices trying to trick the Dev's into believing the Rifleman needs to have a 3 sec cap on speed.

Hes Knocked down, so he gets a damage bonus, but you will end up seeing alot of that as next patch when your KD, you stay down a bit longer.

Yah I could understand the speed nerf if the dmg on pistols wasnt equal to rifles. Right now pistols and rifles have about equal dmg and speed and the pistoleers decided that speed is messed up and rifles should fire slower even though they can do just us much dmg as us. Ive only hit as high as what that pistoleer hit (which would be 4k+ pve) with armor rating taken into account. I could see the pistoleers argument if they were firing fast because of some kind of disadvantage in damage. The speed cap is rediculous but we'll see what they actually do with that.

The 2 attacks shown are smuggler.. not pistoleer.

When i was referring to pistoleer dmg in general i shouldve said pistol users. But even a pure pistoleer has stopping shot which could achieve dmg equal to what that smuggler did.

true, I understand that now My mistake, however, looks like he is still using an FWG5 which last I checked was indeed a pistol

and with power such as that, even vs a rifleman (who would be kneeling/prone anyway) well, since I only have 900/900/900 health, that would be a one-shot on me, which is umm evil and stuff according to the devs

:sigh:

I don't know how he got the damage that high, but stopping shot for me in PvP rarely gets above 250.

Hmm. Maybe what ive seen about stopping shot is wrong. But I believe it has a 5x modifier. so with a 50-200 fwg5 (i think thats about average, im not a pistol user correct me if im wrong) that would be. ok so PvE damage would equal 300-1500.(using flyojumpers formulas) Interesting ive seen screen shots of consistent 3k stopping shots. Can someone explain to me why my calculations are only about half of some of the stopping shot screenshots?

ok well if I dmg slice and max/min power up that weapon I can get stats like 75-350. So now i think stopping shot will reach around 562-2625 in PvE. or140-656 in PvP. I think the really high consistent hits ive seen must be with the uber scatter pistols. It could get pretty bad with Krayt tissues though.

the formula im using for dmg is base dmg times 1.5( for auto attack multiplier) times 5.

I got that from flyojumper and i havent tested it myself but I think others have.

I see a shot for 1100 damage in PvP... I'm not impressed. I've been killed by a 3600 flamethrower hit, and an 1800 Heavy Particle Cannon shot (I think the weapon is called).