Rifleman Archive
Thread: ok let me see if i understand a couple of rifleman issues
1. if you are attacked in melee you take more damage if you have a rifle in your hand then if you have a pistol or a carbine in your hands? even when using something like the spraystick which should be lighter then a pistol.
No you dont, stay prone and you will!
Cover is not "hiding", read the description... will only reduce damage from ranged weapon from a distance, stuff will still see you unless you use conceal shot
3. cover doesnt seem to be working against multi mobs. i am a master marksman/noivce riflemanand am over 60k into the rifleman tree. i will send the 100+ point toget cover going (if i am lucky it works the first time) and the first shot i take if there is more then one mob the other one comes running right away if they pack.
5. the comps for the t21 are all but impostable to find on some servers and even on the servers that you can find them on they are super expansive to get. (i paid 85k for mine, do you know how many gnort missions that is to pay for?)
Gorath cant make them... no plumbum iron still! I think some other servers too is the same!
come on guys (developers) this game has a lot going for it and it shows that you have put a lot of thought into a lot of really good things here but we really need your help here to help us enjoy this game to its fullest. thanks again for a great game
Totally agree! But they have alot of stuff to fix so give it time
"No you dont, stay prone and you will!"
Actually you do. You have a 2.5x melee damage modifier stuck to you just for holding a rifle.
LodarWytewolf
you are incorrect, rifle users take 2.25 times the damage in melee then users wielding a pistol or carbine.
LOL...pickly, pickly Zariell...
you do take more melee damage when you are holding a rifle. 2.25 2.5 whatever. It does hurt more.
let me see if i understand some basic issues that are facing rifle issuer.
1. if you are attacked in melee you take more damage if you have a rifle in your hand then if you have a pistol or a carbine in your hands? even when using something like the spraystick which should be lighter then a pistol.
i think i could understand a decease to your melee defense (you shouldnt have this problem with weapons like the spraystick)but taking more damage. this is one i dont understand.
2. t21 is broken. the one i have i believe is a 135 to 411. with this weapon on a mob that doesnt have any armor or resists it should be doing 263.671875 to 802.734375. for me to have seen a 245 hit on a mob without any armor or resists says something is wrong.
3. cover doesnt seem to be working against multi mobs. i am a master marksman/noivce riflemanand am over 60k into the rifleman tree. i will send the 100+ point toget cover going (if i am lucky it works the first time) and the first shot i take if there is more then one mob the other one comes running right away if they pack.
4. range: the idea that a pistol can hit a target at the same range that i can while i am prone and take over 10 seconds to shoot. i was in the army and i worked on my shoot out to over 400 years. with something like the barrett mobel 82 you can have a range of over 1.5 miles. irl i am thought to be a very good shot with a pistol at being able to put a 3" grouping at 25 yards. at 50yards i hit the target maybe1 time in 3 at a nice target range. no one is going to even think abouthitting a targetin combat with a pistol at 64 meters.with 10 secs to aim with a rifle i should be able to put every shot on the target in a 6' grouping from around a 150 to 200 yards/meters with iron sights, with a scoop i should get a range of over 600 yards/meters for that same 6" grouping. now i can understand that the game may not be able to deal with this kind of range, but if you cant give this kind of range then you have to give me more damage to my weapons or have my cover give me time to get some more shoots off, because at 64 meters i get off 2 shoots and the mob come for me. at 10 seconds per shoot (my t21 has a speed of 9.8) . and then i get the stuffing beat out of me almost before i can stand up and change my weapon. a rifleman is a solo class and has to have a chance to hunt solo.
5. the comps for the t21 are all but impostable to find on some servers and even on the servers that you can find them on they are super expansive to get. (i paid 85k for mine, do you know how many gnort missions that is to pay for?)
come on guys (developers) this game has a lot going for it and it shows that you have put a lot of thought into a lot of really good things here but we really need your help here to help us enjoy this game to its fullest. thanks again for a great game
last night i went out and tested the where having a rifle (even the spraystick) in my hand leadme to take more damage. and i will tell you without fall everytime i was in melee i took much more damage then i did when i had a pistol in my hands. over the course of the weekend i took over 8000 points of damage to my new ubesse coat, and this was all on naboo. simply put there is no other issue as important to fixed as this. i am fully dressed in armor with an e11 rifle or a spraystick in my hand and i take 2.25 (or something like that) times the damage. but if i have a laser carbine or some pistol in my hand, i just take normal damage. this is just plan wrong, not only do i have a big drop in being able to hit a mob when it gets close making sure that i get hit more because i cant hit them as much but then you top that off with the damage and i am done for. to even a lot of white con mobs. last night i was dieing fast to kaadus with a rifle (t21, e11 or spraystick didnt matter)in my hand but when i changed to a pistol (fwg5)they were going down very fast.
i cant talk about being a master rifleman, but i can tell you about going out with a t21 and what i face without using any expolts. if this problem isnt fixed then the dream that i had from day one to make a rifleman is going to come to an end. we dont have more range, we take more damage, and we cost more to play because of we have to replace our armor more and our weapons cost more) but we dont kill faster at higher leveler.
come on developers help us out here.
Can I get a bayonet please? Maybe that would take care of the problem.....
This is whats broken with out profession
The " strengths " are not working properly
The " weakness " are working all too well .
We are a broken class only in context to the other classes . If pistol insanity is curbed than maybe ... I dunno . Maybe it will start to make more sense . As it is now , it's a busted mess .