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My weaponsmith on Eclipse is one of the best.....at pistols and DLTs. However he doesnt understand why we would want a slow T-21 when he can make fast Laser Rifles and stuff. See to him speed is everything. Well on a DLT its nice but on a T-21 its instant death....to the Rifleman.

So for a T-21 on a person who is going for Master Rifleman the target speed should be?

i say 7 secs but im not master yet. And my 7.5 fires pretty quick for me.

Give me a target Speed for him to aim for when he makes them. And explain why that is a good speed. So i can show him this thread and maybe he will understand it. Also explain our speed bonus a little so he can grasp that too compared to pistol users.

Thanks alot

For master rifleman go for a speed of around 10. At master you fire at around 1sec anyways so work on that high damage instead.

I'll explain the speed bonus first.

The speed bonus skill is a _direct_ percentage reduction of weapon speed, lower bounded by a hard limit of 1.0 seconds.

Thus, a master rifleman with 90% weapon speed reduction skill has his weapon speed chopped off by 90 percent. So the 8.4 speed rifle in a master's hands fires every 0.84 seconds, in theory. In practice, 0.84 is less than 1.0, so round up.

Or, if you use a rifle with 7.5 speed, you'll fire every 0.75 seconds, again rounded up to 1.0.

Thus, the target speed for a gun you want to make is 10.0 seconds. I don't believe you can even make a gun that slow.

If you get master marksman too, I think that adds an additional 5 percent to speed, and so you're target speed is anything faster than 20.0 seconds.

Basically, if you're a master rifleman, you don't care what speed you get. Not one bit. You _throw_ _away_ rifles that get a speed slice from your smuggler friends and try again till you get damage modifiers. I've destroyed two t21's already for this reason, and I too amon Eclipse, and haven't even played in about a week and a half.

Okay, I've heard this a lot and I've followed it in principal by focusing only on damage and not on speed... however...if speed is a non-issue why do people always say to MS1/2 with a big boy rifle and then switch to a spray-stick for *FAST* supp fire/WS? My server just acquired the resources a day or two ago for spraysticks and I'm still waiting for my weaponsmith to make me one, so I was wondering, before I got one, how it will be used.

using this spraystick tactic is mostly people who are non-masters. I can fire my 5.0s E11 with suppressionfire every 2 secs about and spraystick every 1 sec. Im only up to expert rifle special which gives me +65 speed mod with master maskman. I still don't bother with spraystick anymore tho, it has higher HAM so I just keep using my E11.