Rifleman Archive
Thread: I want a gillie suit!
I think the top skill in the stealth line of rifleman should us the ability to make and wear gillie suits. First off, this would look badass. And second, as snipers, we should have the ability to use gillie suits for stealth. It should give us a huge stealth boost, and take us off other player's radar. Just my thoughts...
As intresting as it would be to see users running around in Ghillie Suits it would be inpracticle. Ghillie suits are not used to run around unseen with ease. I could understand having them in this game. But the only way you should be able to get any of your said bonuses would be to lay prone and go that way. Its very easy to see anyone in any form of camoflauge when they move quickly. A moving bush isn't exactly stealthy. Beleave me. I've seen it.
RSP
USMC
well right. I don't want to run around in one. I want to have one that when I lay prone, I disappear from someone's radar. That added to the prone movement speed we get as rifleman would make the gillie suit awesome.
While wearing our gillie suits, as soon as we get relatively close, go prone and then crawl the rest of the way in. And this would be cool, but maybe over balancing: even after we attack, I think we should be invisible as long as our gillie suit/steal skill holds out. That way we could sneak in, get a kill and sneak out.
The gillie suit idea was obtained from Scotish games keepers who utilized gillie's to sneak up on poachers. The Bristish military were the first to use the gillie as a means to better snipe german snipers during WW1.
A law enforcement or military sniper trained in the art of fieldcraft,cover and concealment usually will employ a gillie suit in a static or fixed position which we call a sniper hide. The gillie is quite useless and offers no concealment when moving from position to position, unless of course you are moving in the sniper low crawl position (slow prone).
I think that gillies could be introduced into the game without tipping game play balance. Let me explain some of my ideas:
First, in game a rifleman with a gillie would or should be totally invisible to any other player when in a prone position and after taking cover. This invisibility to radar would continue until the rifleman moved in the upright position (standing, walking and running). Additionally, most snipers train to fire at the most one to two rounds from a sniper hide, at which time they move in the low crawl position to an alternate firing location to avoid detection. In game a rifleman with gillie and cover would be able to fire two rounds and remain covered and undetected, additional rounds would remove the invisibility. After firing one to two rounds, the rifleman would then have to move at least 25 meters to a new position in order to fire again in the undetected mode. This way in game rifleman with gillie's get the advantage of cover and concealment, but with the penalty of a drastically reduced rate of fire, as it is in the real world.
As a side note, playing a rifleman in this game has been fun, but I am a little peeved at the short ranges associated with rifle weapons in general. A good rifleman with a decent weapon should be able to reach out and touch someone at well over 500 meters, however in game rifle ranges are quite depressing.
Well that is my two sense on this subject, have fun, be safe.
Yuri
Expert Rifleman
Thats the link for our current take on how the ghillie suit can be implemented.. pls post ideas and support there
(Aldeon - any chance of making it a sticky thread?)