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Thread: Do I have to hold the weapon to get the defenses

paxs
Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:49 pm
#1

As MRM/TKM, pistoleer 0-0-4-0, scout 4-0-0-0, do i get the defenses of pistoleer while fighting with rifle or vibro knuckler. Or do the mods only apply for each prof while using that one.

I know this stuff gets talked about a lot, but SEARCH won't work for me.

Thanks.
Sotaudi
Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:17 pm
#2






paxs wrote:
As MRM/TKM, pistoleer 0-0-4-0, scout 4-0-0-0, do i get the defenses of pistoleer while fighting with rifle or vibro knuckler. Or do the mods only apply for each prof while using that one.

I know this stuff gets talked about a lot, but SEARCH won't work for me.

Thanks.






It depends on the mod.


Ranged defense and Melee defense mods work no matter what weapon, if any, is held. These stack between professions up to a max of 125 (i.e., the mod can be higher, but only the first 125 counts). There is an exception to this with Rifles. These particular defenses counter the attacker's chance to hit (think of them as a counter to Aim). Melee attackers get a huge to-hit bonus against someone holding a rifle. This bonus almost completely negates any melee defense a rifleman can have, but only while he is holding a rifle. That is, we get a +40 to melee defense which is virtually useless to us while holding a rifle, but put down the rifle and it works fine with other weapon classes.


The secondary defenses, Block, Counterattack, and Dodge, take over if the Ranged or Melee defense fails to stop the attack by making it miss. These secondary defenses also stack between professions and also have a max of 125. However, they are also weapon dependent. Dodge only works while holding a pistol or 1H Melee weapon, Counterattack only works while holding a Carbine or 2H Melee weapon, and Block only works while holding a Rifle or a Polearm.


(Note: that the combat log may misreport blocks as counterattacks. This has beenlong time bug, and I do not know if they ever fixed it, but we do not counterattack as Riflemen, we block).




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XaverriJade7
Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:42 pm
#3






Sotaudi wrote:

(Note: that the combat log may misreport blocks as counterattacks. This has beenlong time bug, and I do not know if they ever fixed it, but we do not counterattack as Riflemen, we block).



It has been. If it ever still happens, it is a very rare occurance. Ackhece and I tested Block recently and received 0 reports of a +Counter+






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paxs
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:31 am
#4

Exactly what i wanted to know, thank you.
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