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Thread: rifleman aoe??????????????????
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beauchamp6543
Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:15 am
#1
i'm a new rifleman i need aoe attack what can i do is the one in marksman?
Stena
Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:19 am
#2
There is no AOE attack in rifleman i think there is one in carbineer tho.
Geddeo
Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:20 am
#3
Pistol has Fan shot at 0003 I think, maybe lower than that for the normal version. It also has burst shot in the 0400 line, but I'm not sure how high you need to go there. Burst shot is low dmg, but has an area stun. BH has a high dmg area called spray shot, but I forget what line that is under. The area shots seem to have a longer timer so I found I use all 3 if I need to spam area fire.
Carbine has some area too, but I'm not carbine anymore and I forget the shots and where they are located. If you pick up commando there are weapons that come standard with AOE. I think you can use the AOE weapon with rifle specials to do an AOE Sipershot (not sure about this, never been commando). Come to think of it with an AOE weapon working the startle disarming combo you could take on whole armies if they all stood right in front of you 
. I'm sure if that worked there would be a lot more commando master rifle pistoleers though.
. I'm sure if that worked there would be a lot more commando master rifle pistoleers though.
Kyodor
Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:58 pm
#4
Furthermore, the Proton Rifle is currently bugged and dosen't even fire.
Warmaker01
Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:36 pm
#5
The Proton Rifle is a Master Commando certified weapon. It is also a NON area attack weapon. But it has a little problem that Commandos aren't happy about. IT DOESN'T FIRE.
The AOEs are as follows (I may be missing one):
* Bounty Hunter's Spray Shot- Tight cone area attack; damage only
* Pistoleer's Fan Shots- Similiar to Spray Shot
* Carbineer's Suppression Fires- WIDE area, snare attack. The snares go away fast, but the cool down for the special is rather quick.
* Carbineer's Full Auto Areas- WIDE area, pure damage attack. Not the most damaging but at the proper situation, it is a killer. Also, a group of Carbineers using Full Auto Areas is simply impressive to behold.
If you want area attacks, hopefully this cheap little guide helps on what template to take up.
The AOEs are as follows (I may be missing one):
* Bounty Hunter's Spray Shot- Tight cone area attack; damage only
* Pistoleer's Fan Shots- Similiar to Spray Shot
* Carbineer's Suppression Fires- WIDE area, snare attack. The snares go away fast, but the cool down for the special is rather quick.
* Carbineer's Full Auto Areas- WIDE area, pure damage attack. Not the most damaging but at the proper situation, it is a killer. Also, a group of Carbineers using Full Auto Areas is simply impressive to behold.
If you want area attacks, hopefully this cheap little guide helps on what template to take up.
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
Ackehece
Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:46 pm
#6
Warmaker01 wrote:
The Proton Rifle is a Master Commando certified weapon. It is also a NON area attack weapon. But it has a little problem that Commandos aren't happy about. IT DOESN'T FIRE.
The AOEs are as follows (I may be missing one):
* Bounty Hunter's Spray Shot- Tight cone area attack; damage only
* Pistoleer's Fan Shots- Similiar to Spray Shot
* Carbineer's Suppression Fires- WIDE area, snare attack. The snares go away fast, but the cool down for the special is rather quick.
* Carbineer's Full Auto Areas- WIDE area, pure damage attack. Not the most damaging but at the proper situation, it is a killer. Also, a group of Carbineers using Full Auto Areas is simply impressive to behold.
If you want area attacks, hopefully this cheap little guide helps on what template to take up.
QFE
all the above is correct!
Warmaker01
Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:56 pm
#7
Another thing I want to add:
If you have multiple AOE attacks, some of them have different cycles from each other.
Example: My previous template, MBH/MCarbineer/Pistoleer 0404, gave me Improved Spray Shot, Improved Full Auto Area, and Improved Fan Shot.
* Spray Shot & Fan Shot seems to use the same timer, while Full Auto Area is on a different one. You could cycle between Improved Full Auto Area and Imp.Spray Shot (or Imp.Fan Shot) for fast, repeated Area Attacks!
* Having both Fan Shot & Spray Shot, IMO, is a total waste if you're trying to do that. Like I said, they're on the same timer.
My current template: M.Marksman/M.Rifleman/M.Carbineer/Pistoleer 3404 gives me Improved Full Auto Area and Improved Fan Shot. I get 2 ranged, area attacks that are on different cycles/timers. I lead off with say Improved Full Auto Area and follow up a second later with the tighter Improved Fan Shot. I then lead back into Improved Full Auto Area. You could do the same with BH's Spray Shot to substitute Fan Shot.
* With the latter template, my character's natural +260 Gen.Ranged Accuracy, combined with either Carbine Accuracy +40 or Rifle Accuracy +85, means significantly more ranged damage than any MBH template can hope for (without SEAs/Enhancements). MBH ranged templates can only hope for +210 Gen.Ranged Accuracy at best. My current template will still have more total accuracy even with added Rifle, Pistol, or Carbine Accuracies to MBH's.
* But then again, I sacrifice Melee Def. for the extra Gen.Ranged Accuracy.
Edit to add: With my current template, I can farm Faction Points like no other. I'm not talking fast, Light Speed, or even Warp Speed. I mean "Ludicrous Speed" type of fast!
If you have multiple AOE attacks, some of them have different cycles from each other.
Example: My previous template, MBH/MCarbineer/Pistoleer 0404, gave me Improved Spray Shot, Improved Full Auto Area, and Improved Fan Shot.
* Spray Shot & Fan Shot seems to use the same timer, while Full Auto Area is on a different one. You could cycle between Improved Full Auto Area and Imp.Spray Shot (or Imp.Fan Shot) for fast, repeated Area Attacks!
* Having both Fan Shot & Spray Shot, IMO, is a total waste if you're trying to do that. Like I said, they're on the same timer.
My current template: M.Marksman/M.Rifleman/M.Carbineer/Pistoleer 3404 gives me Improved Full Auto Area and Improved Fan Shot. I get 2 ranged, area attacks that are on different cycles/timers. I lead off with say Improved Full Auto Area and follow up a second later with the tighter Improved Fan Shot. I then lead back into Improved Full Auto Area. You could do the same with BH's Spray Shot to substitute Fan Shot.
* With the latter template, my character's natural +260 Gen.Ranged Accuracy, combined with either Carbine Accuracy +40 or Rifle Accuracy +85, means significantly more ranged damage than any MBH template can hope for (without SEAs/Enhancements). MBH ranged templates can only hope for +210 Gen.Ranged Accuracy at best. My current template will still have more total accuracy even with added Rifle, Pistol, or Carbine Accuracies to MBH's.
* But then again, I sacrifice Melee Def. for the extra Gen.Ranged Accuracy.
Edit to add: With my current template, I can farm Faction Points like no other. I'm not talking fast, Light Speed, or even Warp Speed. I mean "Ludicrous Speed" type of fast!
Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 06-18-2005 07:57 PM
beauchamp6543
Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:32 am
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NOW I HEAR THAT A PROTONrifle IS A INSTANT AOE IS THIS TRUE?
i do not have any more points for more professions
i'm tired of the pstol /bh camper in the aakuan cave and wish to get some loot myself
any other ideas for a aoe?
danke
sopranos
Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:56 am
#9
the proton rifle is instant AOE because it is commando certification
all commando weapons are instant-AOE (to my knowledge at least)
Aetiah
Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:10 am
#10
thats only if they fixed the commando AOE's as right now all they do is state the attackee and aggro them by causing 1pt of dmg...quite irritating really
Cpl_Fisher
Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:43 pm
#11
beauchamp6543 wrote:
NOW I HEAR THAT A PROTONrifle IS A INSTANT AOE IS THIS TRUE?
i do not have any more points for more professions
i'm tired of the pstol /bh camper in the aakuan cave and wish to get some loot myself
any other ideas for a aoe?
danke
It does? first off it actual;ly fires? and it has an AOE? that Aoe is not wanted, trust me.
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