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Thread: no rifle xp for big mobs?

the_Undone_guy
Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:33 pm
#1


I was out hunting some nighsisters with a swordsman last night and it seems any monster with 20k+ ham i never got any rifle xp. I would do tons of mind damage and right before they died i ran right up on them, and still no rifle xp. Has anyone run into this issue? I get plenty of rifle xp from initiates, but none from the higher level sisters while my swordsman friend was getting tons. Any help is greatly appritiated.


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JWlaxplyr7
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:04 pm
#2

what kind of gun were you using? if they had 100% resists to it you cant damage them, thats the only way you wont get xp

the_Undone_guy
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:10 pm
#3

i was using a pre-nerf T21 sliced for speed ( =/ )


i could of sworn that i was ripping up their mind pool....do the higher level sisters have resists to mind shots with a rifle?



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OditeFosore
Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:32 pm
#4

The only thing that makes sense to me is that you were fighting some NS's that were 100% resistant to riflemen damage types. Here's a quick rundown:



NS Riflemen can kill: Initiates, Outcasts, Rangers, Sentries, Rancor Tamers, Sentinals, & Elders.

100% resistant to energy, stun, acid, cold, heat: Protectors and Spell Weavers.


After that, I'm afraid I don't know what the cause may have been - stranger things have happened though. I have also noticed that you don't always get the on-screen message, "you receive XXX rifle experience", but still do receive the xp.



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Excess3
Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:20 pm
#5

You can still do damage from your bleeds, but you won't do direct damage to protectors or spellweavers unless you have a magical blast weapon hidden up your sleeve.
No direct damage=No XP.. at least where the 20k ham mobs are concerened.



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Nevaryn
Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:53 am
#6

I had a similar issue happen a few weeks ago. I was grouped with an individual and we were both shooting down a couple of fambaas. When the first one dropped (after I mindshot it to death) I got no experience whatsoever. But when the second one dropped I got exp. It was a weird, disappointing bug... but it's only happened to me the one time so I didn't think much of it passed the moment it happened.
JediGias
Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:13 pm
#7

It seems that if you have a T21, even if the NS is 100% resistant, due to the AR3 you can still do damage. I have, at least, been able to do damage to NSs with 100% resist using my T21. I did very little damage, but it was still damage.







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OditeFosore
Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:38 pm
#8




JediGias wrote:
It seems that if you have a T21, even if the NS is 100% resistant, due to the AR3 you can still do damage. I have, at least, been able to do damage to NSs with 100% resist using my T21. I did very little damage, but it was still damage.



Bleeds and wounds still work I believe. Bleeds makes sense, but wounds I believe is just an oversight. Beyond that, I can't confirm or deny but that's pretty bizarre. I know that as Elder's HAM reduces, their resistances to different damage types reduces, but that's not really the case there. Hehe, I always using a sword on the 100% resist ones and have neverreally tryied to hurt them with the T21 - I'll try it out tonight I guess.



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cincoalto
Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:53 pm
#9

lol was prob just the Swordsmen tearing her mind up



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Sotaudi
Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:48 am
#10






OditeFosore wrote:

The only thing that makes sense to me is that you were fighting some NS's that were 100% resistant to riflemen damage types. Here's a quick rundown:



NS Riflemen can kill: Initiates, Outcasts, Rangers, Sentries, Rancor Tamers, Sentinals, & Elders.

100% resistant to energy, stun, acid, cold, heat: Protectors and Spell Weavers.


After that, I'm afraid I don't know what the cause may have been - stranger things have happened though. I have also noticed that you don't always get the on-screen message, "you receive XXX rifle experience", but still do receive the xp.





(Note: There is a third type we cannot damage, Stalkers. Stalkers can only be damaged by Restraint, Kinetic, and Blast, so they, too, are immune to our damage types.)


I agree with Odite here. The chances were that you were hitting one of the three types that we cannot damage. Remember, your combat log is no indication of the actual damage you did. It just shows what the raw damage is before armor and resists are taken into account. If you hit a Protector, Stalker, or Spellweaver as a Rifleman, all of that damage is resisted, so youmay see xxx damage in your combat log, but there will be no actual damage floating above your target's head for your shots.


And as you said, you were with a Swordsman; therefore, the fact that the mind bar was what was moving is no indication that you were doing any damage at all. Swordsmen can attack mind as well. Also, the ones that we cannot damage happen to be able to be damage by Blast and Kinetic, the two damage types a Swordsman can do.


The only other explanation I can think of is that your weapon has decayed to 0. When that happens, you will not do any damage at all, even to targets we can hurt.




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