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Thread: SOE Hates Riflemen! (proof)

RueKursk
Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:00 am
#53

Bah! Everyone and their mom is either a pistoleer or a BH these days, so they can stack pistol speed. All they do is spam their Fire KD over and over with CDEF carbines! And can you believe that meleers do 2.5 damage on us? That's insane!



And what the hell is the Jawa Ion rifle good for? All it does is stun damage at crazy slow speeds.


The Devs play BHs, face it.



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Geddeo
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:01 pm
#54

I'm glad to see commando finally got some love, they needed it, but who's bright idea was it to make the flame thrower do kinetic damage? Taking 2.5x dmg from a weapon that already kills in 1 or two shot really sucks, the devs have to do something about this!



Can't they just change it to heat dmg? That would make sense since the thing shoots FLAMES!



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KenObi1
Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:40 pm
#55



BaronJedi wrote:


RueKursk wrote:
Bah! Everyone and their mom is either a pistoleer or a BH these days, so they can stack pistol speed. All they do is spam their Fire KD over and over with CDEF carbines! And can you believe that meleers do 2.5 damage on us? That's insane!
And what the hell is the Jawa Ion rifle good for? All it does is stun damage at crazy slow speeds.
The Devs play BHs, face it.


And Headshot3 is socrappy because hardly anyone else in the game does that damage, making us worthless in group situations. Don't even get me started on our low DPS and warping mobs, making leveling to Master impossible. Which probably sucks anyways...

And I am tired of these CH BHs owning me with their Rancors and hitting my eye at 64m. I can't even wear a bone helmet to stop it with these ridiculous HAM costs!


Message Edited by BaronJedi on 04-16-2004 12:26 PM





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buster
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:53 pm
#56

are you kidding me?! you guys have stun guns, you can fire faster than anyone and do more damage than anyone yet you think you're hated?! omg dude you're a **edit**in dumbass!



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thepunisher286
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:54 pm
#57











Alfgand wrote:

Yes you are right. SOE does HATE "INSERT your clas here"


They created the class to trick all the people that they did not like into joining it. Then they bugged it up on purpose just to make those people very mad.


What class did they create for all the people they hate?


I will tell you.....


LOL


Why whould anyone assume that SOE hates any class?


SOE has one goal... To make as much money as possible. How do they do that?


Not by "Hating" a class. Not by screwing things up intentionally.


They do it bymaking the best game they possibly can to get as many people as possible to play it and keep them playing it.


Do they make mistakes? Well yes, they do. Its their job to minimize the number and severity of them.


Do they fix their mistakes? They have to or people will not play. However, they can only do what they can do in "X" amount of time. They are probably fixing the most serious problems first somewhat balanced by how easy a fix is.


Is SWG perfect? No


Will it ever be perfect? No


Is EQ perfect after 4 years? No


Are any MMOG's perfect? No


Will SWG be alot better in 1 year than it is now? It had better be. All MMOG's had better improve year by year or they will die.


Does whinning about the problems help? I don't think they listen much to the whiners although I have no way of knowing. I think they DO listen to people who post about problems with game or a class who do so in a clear, concise, non-whinning, non flaming, respectful way.


SOE will do what they think is best to make SWG successful and profitable. That is their goal, not creating a class then "hating" it. lol


Yes, I dislike the fact that Pistoleers are overpowered compared to Rifleman and they can kill many Rifleman from 64m. Its rediculous but I suspect they know that by now.


A bunch of things need fixing for my Ranger/Rifleman. A Ranger at the moment is only a Scout that has a prettier tent. lol


However, I am content providing feedback in a calm postive manner and I have resonable expectations that the will fix most if not all of the problems.


If I am not happy with the game and the rate of improvement I will leave and go to another game.


Nobody listens to whiners except other whiners. Feedback is good, whining just grates on everyones nerves.





LOL! Dear god.. you HAVE to be kidding me.Everything in your post i agree with BUT THAT!. I was master rifleman for a bit and had a blast! In no way would I ever get the impression SOE hates rifleman when new guns are released ( berzerker, dxr6 disruptor ) within a few publishes with a very kind and helpfull attack called sniper shot the DB with range! Pistoleers are getting a new pistol but thus far its a terrible weapon.
BaronJedi
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:17 am
#58






RueKursk wrote:

Bah! Everyone and their mom is either a pistoleer or a BH these days, so they can stack pistol speed. All they do is spam their Fire KD over and over with CDEF carbines! And can you believe that meleers do 2.5 damage on us? That's insane!



And what the hell is the Jawa Ion rifle good for? All it does is stun damage at crazy slow speeds.


The Devs play BHs, face it.





And Headshot3 is socrappy because hardly anyone else in the game does that damage, making us worthless in group situations. Don't even get me started on our low DPS and warping mobs, making leveling to Master impossible. Which probably sucks anyways...



And I am tired of these CH BHs owning me with their Rancors and hitting my eye at 64m. I can't even wear a bone helmet to stop it with these ridiculous HAM costs!





Message Edited by BaronJedi on 04-16-2004 12:26 PM




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Lambchops79
Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:15 pm
#59

But but with defence stackers being nigh invulnerable i have to be prone to evan hit them one of ten times and they come withting melee range (decrasing my accuracy still, and it says i cnat evan attack them in this position!!!!!!!! then i have to kneel, and I hit evan less!!! SOE needs to amke it so i can shoot out of prone with no ranged modifyers at point blank without the bonus to hit form melee!!!! And more dmg types I need blast rastriant and kinetic, but i dont want it to do crappy dmg liek our cold rifle and it needs the heavy ap like the t21 or noone will play it and we need a ranged KD like smugglers and carbineers who are way overpowered!



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La-grange
Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:30 pm
#60

Whoa. Were you ever a carbineer? They have some serious issues. Damage wise it might be true that carbineer could feasably keep up. But with a +60 speed mod at master for a 3.5-4 sec master weapon which is by all means useless for about everything. Compaired to the riflemans +90 speed for a 6-7 sec master weapon with ap3 and a higher min than the carbineer max on the master weapon.

The only reason I am a rifleman is so I can play in the pvp arena. Im not going to sugar coat the pill on that one. If it weren't for that AP3 and stun weapon plus the nice head shot you have. Rifleman wouldn't have a leg to stand on. In truth I would rather be a carbineer but the status of defenses has gone out of hand and Im getting a little tired of incapping due to some &*&( who is spamming headshot 3 at one a sec with a jawa rifle while my best special is pecking random pools at a reduced 50-100 points at a rate of one every 3-5 sec depending on the AS of the laser carbine I am using.

I even tried pistoleer and found their profession to be even worse off than carbineer. Mainly due to weapon selection. That was of course before the advent of the 5million credit genosian blasters that do as much as 300 max damage. Ask a pistoleer about the status of their specials.

TK. That lovely profession that everyone likes to cry about is also about useless against some buffed, brandy & canape, muon, thakollito, sythesteaked out toon. Their only weapon is ap1 and does kinetic damage. And that weapon kills them as fast as they are killing. Which is a problem that is also shared by pikeman and carbineers.

Heavy swordsman took a big hit with the bleed nerf. That was their bread and butter. Of course now its the power hammer. Bet you don't like getting hit with that.

These are just a few issues with the combat professions. I can name two that got nerf nuked into uselessness. Commando and CH. Nuff said on those.

And then there is the crafting community that has its own share of problems.

This post really ticks me off in alot of ways. The main reason I have stated above. And you better believe the day that the combat professions fixed and the issue of defense vs offense is addresed. Im dropping this like a bad habit and going back to my preferred profession of carbineer. Until then im stuck on the band wagon. Another reason is the nice weapons you have recieved in the last two patches. The commandos are just a tad upset that you have a ap2 acid weapon while they are stuck with an ap0 acid weapon whose specials emulate the flamethrower specials. And congrats on the beserker rifle. And whats this I read about getting +5 riflespeed skill tapes and hitting the cap with about any weapon/special combo you can think of?? carbineer has to get BH 0-3-0-0 to match that.

BUDDY SHUT YOUR TRAP!!

Message Edited by La-grange on 04-17-2004 06:34 PM

Message Edited by La-grange on 04-17-2004 06:37 PM



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PsychoticChipmunk
Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:35 pm
#61

This thread is really opening my eyes. I had no idea there were so many people unwilling to read an entire thread before posting. I had always thought they were in the minority at least but sadly it isn't. And this isn't even a long thread. Now if we had hit say 6 pages then it's acceptable (assuming we haven't brought up the fact that it is a necro within the last page for context and he just happened to skip over the post date while reading post 1) but here. My god, now I understand some of the ignorant people responding to some of my topics or re-hashing arguments that were debunked a page and a half ago. The intraweb is slipping furtherdownhill.



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La-grange
Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:04 pm
#62

lol. Temper got the best of me.



"Bet I can kill me before you can kill me."
Elder Carbineer and other stuff
`:_-|-_ Here lies S.W.G. R.I.P November 15, 2005
SoonToBeBountyHunter
Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:41 pm
#63

look at when this was posted!



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PsychoticChipmunk
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:21 pm
#64

Hey, edit that out. It's fun to see the ramblings of nerf-herders unadulterated and with no real point.



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BaronJedi
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:45 pm
#65

Where can I find tabages plz?




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