Rifleman Archive

Thread: when will they fix us!?

Zarl0k
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:21 pm
#14

I don't like you much either. You must have posted "you can't do specials with rocket launchers" on ever RL post you reponded to that I've seen.

AldeonAvardulin
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:24 pm
#15

Thats becuase its true, rocket launcher is nto as lethal as all these people say. It has no styles, so it will always do 1000-3000 damage. Have you not seen what our styles do?



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Hawkenz
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:29 pm
#16

Of course some of the nerfs were not RIFLEMEN specific...


But...



The accuracy nerf hit us.


The knockdown hit us.


It doesn't really matter if it was class specific or not and I think thats the BIG point you are missing here. The facts are on top of all the nerfs that just "happened" to affect us they affected us in a major way, AND WITH the 2x modifier which we are the only class that gets this it is a pretty hard nerf of the entire class when you add em all up.


Not including the warping mobs, the T-21 damage reduction, the supposedly "no big deal" boost to commandos, and the stutter step fire its like we have to play with a crutch compared to some other classes.


The rifleman even at MASTER (where the only REAL significant difference is rate of fire) is not THAT great and the pvp affects of it all put together basically slammed the class fairly quick.




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Demenus
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:00 am
#17

Those of you who want to replace Aldeon do not know what your talking about. First off you cannot blame him because the Devs don't care about us. You also all need to take a look at the other representatives that are out there and compare them to Aldeon. I do not post much but I pay attention and I read ALOT of the other forums.



You will find Aldeon is the most organized, most articulate, and provides the most evidence of our problems. For a job that pays nothing he puts alot of obvious work into it. In my opinion were lucky to have him. Some of the other player reps out there are Jokes.



Its not his fault the Devs nerf us and like pistoleers better. He didn't get us nerfed the Devs did. He has been the most adult and organized and made the best case for us and our needs when compared to any single other correspondent out there. So please, dont take out your dev frustration on him. Take a look at what you have and what you could have before trying to dump him.



There is one legitimate argument about Aldeon you can make though. He does care more about master rifleman or reflect upon the point of view of the master rifleman much more than us peeps trying to crawl our way up the tree. However he still far surpasses any other correspondent out there.



Just my $0.02



Demenus

Hawkenz
Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:14 am
#18

I would prefer an anti-nerf everything TL.




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RAMBOW
Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:14 am
#19

Well then lets go start up an uproar on the discussion board......



WE NEED TO BE FIXED!



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ArianSix
Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:29 pm
#20

All I frickin want is the old T21 back...

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Seflyn
Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:08 pm
#21






Hawkenz wrote:

The knockdown hit us.





FFS this board was full of people whining about KD all day long, so they nerf it and make it almost useless and now RM whine that KD was nerfed. **edit** do you want, a "insta kill everyone" button.


You could solo Dark Jedi Knights using a double laser mind bleed and supp fire. It was WAY overpowered in PvE so it got nerfed along with KD. All I see on this forum is people whining about how much we suck, we DO have problems, but it isn't as bad as some people make out.


You think the flamethrower / LLC is lame for us? What about melee? They have to get close, they have no choice, and when they get close the BH/Commando can use a special that can easily 1 hit kill them. Before this patch TKA were killing themselves when using knockdown because it took 700! HAM, now it's just plain pointless. Almost everyclass in this game has major problems right now, be it skills not working, poor design or poor implementation.


If you want to blame someone for those problems blame the people who MAKE the game, the Devs and the publishers for releasing it too early.




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Raloorn
Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:18 pm
#22






AldeonAvardulin wrote:




Have to love Hawkens, so now I have 2 people who hate my guts. TekDragon, and Hawkens.


2 out of 1000 is pretty good dont you think?







/hug Aldeon






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Pecos
Sat Sep 06, 2003 2:33 pm
#23

It's not that we hate you, it's that you think Riflemen are sunshine and roses because you got to Master off of Jaxes and no longer have any clue what we're talking about. You counter every argument with "strafe2", which most riflemen don't have and many will never get because they don't want to become Master Riflemen. You also like to bring up the rocket launcher, even though it's the flamethrower and lightning gun hits for 11,000 damage (not exaggerated) that we're talking about.


There's a screenshot with a rifleman getting hit for 6066 damage by a lightning gun in a duel, so you do the math.


What our styles do is kick our own butts with mind damage. Don't talk to me about Muon Gold, if I wanted that much downtime I'd play EQ. I tried one and will never use it again.


Warping mobs kill us instantly where a pistoleer has time for a warning shot. Running mobs are now harder to hit and once again, that impacts riflemen far more than pistoleers because once anything reaches us we're dead.


Open your eyes, riflemen are the new bottom feeders. No, we have not had many direct nerfs but the net effect of many global nerfs have impacted riflemen far more than other classes and now we're suffering for it.


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