Rifleman Archive

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Volcun wrote:
Same. I almost always pay 1k for a crate of ten Max/Min or Max/Mind powerups.

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You're very fortunate then.

99% quality powerups require 10 resources, averaging over 990 overall quality between mineral and chemical resources.

So at 10 resources per powerup, 10 pups in a crate, thats 100 hi-qual resources per crate. Since resources of this extremely high quality typically sell for more than 10cpu, you are getting quite a deal. Your guy doesnt count resource value, housing costs, vendor costs, factory costs etc...

im on ECLPISE server,can anyone give me a realible name for the power ups as i have no luck in finding anyone.

cheers

Alioninwinter,

Itwould see logical that minimum damage powerups would be important after damage mitigation goes into effect, but mathematically it does not really work out that way inallcircumstances. For weapons with low mimum and high maximum values (i.e., a larger damage range), max damage is still more important. Here is why:

Let's take a good Laser and get a damage slice on it:

44 - 402 Good standard Laser
59 - 543 35% damage sliced

The powerup numbers work as follows for the sliced version of the above Laser:

78 - 543 with a 32% min damage powerup
59 - 716 witha 32% max damage powerup

Now factor in level 3 damage mitigation wherenew max damage = min + ((max - min) * .60)

59 - 349 with no powerupand level 3 damage mitigation
78 - 357 with min damage powerupand level 3 damage mitigation
59 - 454 with max damage powerup andlevel 3 damage mitigation

As you can see, the min damage powerup has a 12 point minimum damage advantage over the max damage one, but the max damage power up hasa 97 point maximum damage advantage over the minimum one. Thus, you will still want to go with a 32% max damage/ 16% mind cost reduction powerup. If you can afford the mind costs, go witha 16% minimum/32% maximum damage one.

However, weapons with a shorter damage range, like the E11 or the T21, may benefit more from the minimum damage powerup vs. the Maxium damage version. It just depends on how much greater the unpowered up maximum damage exceeds the unpowered up minmum damage range. You would just have to work out the math.

I think on Chilastra anything between 2K and 3K is a fair price, but you will probably get most crates for about 2300 credits. Sure, you can get them cheaper. But this is a price that you will always find them.

I only did the maths on non sliced DLT20a and T21 (which I don't have yet, on either server I've mastered on ).

They both worked out better with a min/max rather than a max/min. I don'tthink I'llbe tryingto use my laser much in PvP, I'll stick with the krayt E11 and the Jawa.

Right now, speed and mind. I won't be buying any more of those, however. I'm close to master and speed won't be a problem then. After that, Max damage and mind. I look for the holy grail powerup, however, which would be arare triple:Mind,min,max - in that exact priority.

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Sotaudi wrote:

Now factor in level 3 damage mitigation wherenew max damage = min + ((max - min) * .60)

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That's the equation for the 40% reduction at mitigation 2 - level 3 would be max = min + ((max-min) * .40).

Average damage vs mitigation 3 (calculated as (min + new_max)/2) with no powerup = 0.3(min) + 0.4(max)

Same with min dmg powerup = 0.4(min) + 0.2(max)

Same with max dmg powerup = 0.3(min) + 0.266(max)

There's probably some way to use these equations to figure out when min would be better than max but I don't know how to do it.

i use different powerups for different weapons.

My laser gets a 31% Min dmg 15% max dmg

and my T21 gets a 32% Mind reduction and 15% speed reductio.

and i use various others depending on my mood for myTuskens.

Just on a sidenote, does using a powerup increase the speed of decay?

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Fred_Skinner wrote:
Right now, speed and mind. I won't be buying any more of those, however. I'm close to master and speed won't be a problem then. After that, Max damage and mind. I look for the holy grail powerup, however, which would be a rare triple: Mind,min,max - in that exact priority.

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I would not bother with looking for one too much. From what I have seen and crafted myself, the 3rd attribute will be very very low, and will take away some of the other attribute values. So instead of a 32/16 something, you might find a 30/15/3. I don't think that this is worth finding. If it was something like 32/16/16, sure, that would be a different story. But do you really think anyone would buy 32/16s if it was tehcnically possible to make 32/16/16s? All the 3 attribute powerups I made were not worth the time invested, and wouldn't sell. Others may have been more lucky, but don't get your hopes too high when searchign for your holy grail.


Also, do people really use mind powerups? I found that in a fight, I usually have to use drugs anyway. And on Muon, I can spam my specials without a mind powerup long enough. A Min/max powerup has a slightly lower dmg/ham ratio, but it's not that much different. Keep in mind (pun not intended) that by increasing damage you get a better bang for the higher mind cost, so the difference is really not too big. And if you are buffed/drugged/drunk, a man/min will server you better...