Rifleman Archive
Thread: Ok im training rifle, can anyone tell me a secret to master it in a week?
FicoFeafip
Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:09 pm
#14
Hm, doing savage quenkers is probably the most boring, but best way to level rifleman. Here's a little math just in case you want proof:
6 savage quenkers and a lair = 25,000 xp (only if grouped with something; multiple babies lower this considerably)
2 savage quenker missions = around 15 minutes (longer if using spice--downer; longer if having trouble finding the missions in the same direction--personal record, 58 refreshes before I got mission number 2; much longer if using anything other than a swoop)
8 savager quenker missions every hour = 200,000 an hour
Around 4.25 million rifle xp needed for master (from novice) = less than 22 hours
So, theoretically, it's possible to level all of rifleman in a single day....(if my math is right that is, did it all in my head 
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)P.S. - At around6900 credits per mission, 4.25 million xp worth of savage quenker missions would equal over 1.2 million credits. Who says grinding proffesions costs money?
Yrega
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:02 pm
#15
ok thanks, all i needed to know
three more questions...... t21 or laser? t21 or laser? t21 or laser?
ReD5FlAtLaNd
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:10 pm
#16
Well, if you have conceal shot, if not get this first. I'd say get a high damage T21. It has pretty consistant damage and with AP3 it works pretty well. But, it will take much longer if you don't have the Rifle Abilities Tree since your Rifle will most likely be really slow. This is what I did the entire way through Rifleman until I got Head Shot3. Still used the high damage T21, but I kited them with HS3 from around 64m.
Yrega
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:18 pm
#17
awesome, great, thanks for all your help guys, maybe with a little luck ill have rifleman mastered in 3-7 days
Hudson5150
Tue Mar 23, 2004 12:20 am
#18
On Yavin 4 there is a POI. IT is a temple with Kliknic (sp) in it. In the POI description it will talk about the temple becoming a hive. They spawn inside the temple in such a way that you can shoot them without them being able to attack you. They give around 4k exp each abd spawn fairly quickly. I mastered rifleman in about 4 days here, and I do sleep sometimes 
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Phillio64
Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:29 am
#19
I usually don't rush through my professions... but... I must admit, I'm getting a bit impatient 
. I think I may go try the Yavin thing or shoot some quenkers...
. I think I may go try the Yavin thing or shoot some quenkers...
n00bit
Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:34 am
#20
Its quite simple actually. All I have done is gone to the geo cave with buffs(I buff myself so this is a little easier), lay against the back wall and spam HS3 in a targeting macro(Use HS1 and then 2 as you progress, and use 3 when its available). You rarely get hit at all because there are mass guys in front of you and get about 1k-1.5k a geo, and they are usually a constant spawn. Not necessarily the fastest way, but the most convenient. I just sat on my bed and read a book and looked up periodically to make sure I wasnt getting hit. Got from novice marks to 4303 rifleman in 2 days of just sitting around(and a lot of the time im alt-tabbed playing a diff game to pass the time). When I say 2 days I mean about 12 or so hours, and the fact that I can run it while I sleep(although I usually die within an hour of sleeping)make it even more convenient.
PolanderRM
Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:17 pm
#21
I was kinda slow. Took me 3 days. Killed everything Dantoine has to offer. Include Force sensative npc's when I ran across them.
Buffs and food/drink a must.
SdDarktide
Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:42 am
#22
No idea how to do it in a week, i did it in a day, cant help, sorry
Kraftomatic
Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:40 am
#23
You said you didn't know which weapon to use? T21 or Laser? Here's a breakdown of the rifles...
DLT20, DLT20a (Energy, AP0) - Great starting rifles to overcharge shot with at novice at Rifles I, but after you earn the laser rifle cert you can kiss these goodbye.
Laser Rifle (Energy, AP2)- Probably your best all around rifle. Until you get master rifleman, speed is pretty much everything. I would reccommend buying about 5 or more laser rifles, getting them all sliced, and keeping the one that is the fastest (Mine is a 3.8 and gets 550 Max or so with a damage powerup...you can keep the damage slices for when you are master or sell them) No other rifle can be crafted with such a max damage this high as the laser rifle, so technically you can get some of the highest damage hits with a laser rifle (it just has low minmum damage, therefore it's not great in PvP [ranged damage mit]..but awesome in PvE)
Tusken Rifle (energy AP0)- They usually are made slow, speeds ranging from 6-7 seconds with 260 or so max damage..pretty much a good starting rifle toexperiment with, but not really a professional choice. (The laser rifle can br crafted with 5.5 base speed and 400 or so max damage..as you can see it has higher armor piercing as well, so the laser rifle is a much better choice than carrying around or using a tusken) Pretty much the tusken rifle makes a cool noise when you shoot it and looks good, but doesn't really deliver..maybe a good rifle to fool around with if your a master for fun.
E-11 Rifle (Energy, AP0) Again another good starting rifle with decent speed but low minimum damage.
Jawa Ion Rifle (AP1) This weapon owns in player versus player, but as far as PvE goes it's really only effective if you have the master speed mod with a damage slice and damage powerup. Other than that it will be sort of slow and not do as much damage as the other rifles. Save this rifle for PvP : )
SG82 Rifle - (Cold, AP0) Another starting rifle...slow speed, low damage, yuck.
Spraystick (Energy AP0) This is a good weapon to use if you are destroying a structure, lair or base...with a speed slice you can get it down to way under 2 seconds with a max damage around 180ish. It also has a range of about 30 meters so you can use it up close and get good results...but not a main combat rifle, really just suitable in certain situations.
T21 Rifle - (energy, AP3) This is the master sharpshooter's choice. The T21 Rifle is usefull in PvE and PvP because of it's high minmum damage. You can land more higher damage shots with this since it's minmum damage can be several times that of a laser rifle, and it's armor rating is the highest. Except, unless you are a master rifleman, this rifle will be extremely slow and not really worth it when you are leveling. With a good speed slice and damage powerup, you may be able to reach about a little over 4 second speed or so, with like max damage being under 500. Using this rifle without a speed slice is basically useless since you would do a special about every 10 seconds or more...
So basically the laser rifle can be crafted with great speed (I bought mine stock at 5.5) and they usually have exceptional max damage (mine came with a 407, stock). Sliced for speed you can get laser rifles below 4 seconds and with a good powerup get the max damage over 500. Until you hit master, speed will be an issue as rifles are slow at first, so using a speed sliced laser rifle with a damage powerup (equalling around 530 or so) will land you concealshots that do around 2k damage max. Sure you could use a T21, but compared to the laser rifle it shoots a tad slower and the max damage is not as high. So when you are leveling, I would reccommend a speed sliced laser rifle, hands down.
Go to Dantooine, and do Savage Quenker Missions (6800-6900 Reward). Learn concealshot first, since this shot can allow you to keep shooting without being aggroed. As a rifleman, the beauty is that you can do these missions with NO doctor's buff and NO armor completely fine. You just need some good brandy that lasts for 30++ minutes, it will keep you shooting for a while. The money stacks up and you can earn alot (over a million one estimate said). If you buy a non CH pet and group with it, leaving it at the starport, you can get around 3900 per quenker and I've got 4400 for the lair. So you could earn up to about 29k XP or so per lair, if 6 quenkers spawn. This is the most effective way to level rifleman.
PS - You may way to have your speeder nearby if the quenker "sees" you and starts to charge. If you don't have any other master in a profession you may want to run from them. Personally, as a commandoI just whip the flamethrower out : )
Also the quenker's don't deathblow, and they only have around 6,000 HAM. [I killed one once in 15 seconds with 3 concealshots : )]
Basically I dismount from my speeder at around 70meters, mask scent, equip the laser rifle, run up to the 60m range of the quenkers, prone, conceal shot them both...shot the lair 3 times. peace. Kill the 2 quenkers. Then I'll shoot the lair until the health of it goes down to the "g" in "A savage quenker lair", then peace, another twice come out...kill those..It's so easy and you can do it in your sleep.
As far as shooting the lairs, i would have a seperate laser rifle designated for lairs only (because you want to use those powerups wisely and use them on the speed rifle which you would use to do most of your hits.) It is possible to get 200,000 XP an hour if you grind these lairs 2 every 15 minutes....
Any questions just reply to this post
rifleman44
Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:26 am
#24
im a master rifleman on shadowfire. there is no way to master rifleman in a week,unnless you play all day everday for an entire week. the last four skill boxes are very hard. go to dath and do voritor missions in group. othre than that kill everything in sight
Fred_Skinner
Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:40 am
#25
Now THAT is a wopper.
SdDarktide wrote:
No idea how to do it in a week, i did it in a day, cant help, sorry
Barb-Wire
Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:21 am
#26
rifleman44 wrote:im a master rifleman on shadowfire. there is no way to master rifleman in a week,unnless you play all day everday for an entire week. the last four skill boxes are very hard. go to dath and do voritor missions in group. othre than that kill everything in sight
it can easily be done in a weekend or even a day if you go nuts.
some things are required:
fast laser around 4.0
crate of speed powerups
vaserian brandy
crate of stimb
novice medic
someone or somehting to tank for you.
to get premade tanks join enraged rancor groups use your laser in autofire mode without powerups until you get CS3.
if you have a pet do pikets or just about anything you run across on dath for XP group with pet or droid at all times to boost xp.
it is not hard with a pet to gain 350k an hour in XP.
letting others in a rancor group tank for you is abit slower but its is far faster than using conceal shot or running solo missions.